From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.io!.POSTED.blaine.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Antoine Kalmbach Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: A modern-mode? 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That's all we know. X-Spam_score_int: -20 X-Spam_score: -2.1 X-Spam_bar: -- X-Spam_report: (-2.1 / 5.0 requ) BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_EF=-0.1, SPF_HELO_NONE=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001 autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no X-Spam_action: no action X-Mailman-Approved-At: Tue, 15 Sep 2020 17:51:58 -0400 X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.23 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "Emacs-devel" Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.devel:255800 Archived-At: Andrea Corallo writes: > That said I think this should enable some dark setting so I'll look into > how to proceed (suggestions very welcome on this too :). I suspect that whether a "modern" theme should enable a dark/light theme by default is a point of contention. I think it would be better to either (a) split the theme into modern-light-theme / modern-dark-theme or even better (b) make the whole thing interactive on first use which would prompt/guide the user to select by their preference, not unlike a guided tour. -- Antoine Kalmbach