From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Drew Adams Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.bugs Subject: bug#19107: 25.0.50; emacs-lisp-mode: help-echo in font-lock-extra-managed-props Date: Fri, 11 Mar 2016 07:57:00 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <8fea3afa-9951-4991-99c5-68d7a6f152ff@default> References: <87ioibjjjk@ristopher.com> <87a8m8xjjh.fsf@mbork.pl> <80a4e3ea-421e-41ce-82c5-e8d6261834c6@default> <87io0tw9ka.fsf@mbork.pl> NNTP-Posting-Host: plane.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1457711911 31630 80.91.229.3 (11 Mar 2016 15:58:31 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Fri, 11 Mar 2016 15:58:31 +0000 (UTC) Cc: 19107@debbugs.gnu.org To: Marcin Borkowski Original-X-From: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Fri Mar 11 16:58:17 2016 Return-path: Envelope-to: geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([208.118.235.17]) by plane.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1aePS6-0002S3-4Z for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Fri, 11 Mar 2016 16:58:10 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:56083 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1aePS5-0001eV-LU for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Fri, 11 Mar 2016 10:58:09 -0500 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::10]:41343) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1aePS1-0001eA-9S for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Fri, 11 Mar 2016 10:58:06 -0500 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1aePRy-0000SK-0W for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Fri, 11 Mar 2016 10:58:05 -0500 Original-Received: from debbugs.gnu.org ([208.118.235.43]:48168) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1aePRx-0000SG-TM for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Fri, 11 Mar 2016 10:58:01 -0500 Original-Received: from Debian-debbugs by debbugs.gnu.org with local (Exim 4.84) (envelope-from ) id 1aePRx-00071V-Ln for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Fri, 11 Mar 2016 10:58:01 -0500 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Resent-From: Drew Adams Original-Sender: "Debbugs-submit" Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Resent-Date: Fri, 11 Mar 2016 15:58:01 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 19107 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs X-GNU-PR-Keywords: Original-Received: via spool by 19107-submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B19107.145771183526945 (code B ref 19107); Fri, 11 Mar 2016 15:58:01 +0000 Original-Received: (at 19107) by debbugs.gnu.org; 11 Mar 2016 15:57:15 +0000 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:45295 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84) (envelope-from ) id 1aePRD-00070X-CK for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Fri, 11 Mar 2016 10:57:15 -0500 Original-Received: from userp1040.oracle.com ([156.151.31.81]:38797) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84) (envelope-from ) id 1aePRB-00070K-LU for 19107@debbugs.gnu.org; Fri, 11 Mar 2016 10:57:14 -0500 Original-Received: from userv0022.oracle.com (userv0022.oracle.com [156.151.31.74]) by userp1040.oracle.com (Sentrion-MTA-4.3.2/Sentrion-MTA-4.3.2) with ESMTP id u2BFv6pW021869 (version=TLSv1.2 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 bits=256 verify=OK); Fri, 11 Mar 2016 15:57:07 GMT Original-Received: from aserv0121.oracle.com (aserv0121.oracle.com [141.146.126.235]) by userv0022.oracle.com (8.14.4/8.13.8) with ESMTP id u2BFv6PB012484 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=FAIL); Fri, 11 Mar 2016 15:57:06 GMT Original-Received: from abhmp0012.oracle.com (abhmp0012.oracle.com [141.146.116.18]) by aserv0121.oracle.com (8.13.8/8.13.8) with ESMTP id u2BFv1Qa006883; Fri, 11 Mar 2016 15:57:05 GMT In-Reply-To: <87io0tw9ka.fsf@mbork.pl> X-Priority: 3 X-Mailer: Oracle Beehive Extensions for Outlook 2.0.1.9 (901082) [OL 12.0.6691.5000 (x86)] X-Source-IP: userv0022.oracle.com [156.151.31.74] X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.2.x-3.x [generic] X-Received-From: 208.118.235.43 X-BeenThere: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org List-Id: "Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.bugs:114757 Archived-At: > >> I confirm this is apparently still true on ac9a931, but I don't see wh= y > >> it's a problem. Could you elaborate a bit? What exactly breaks? Wha= t > >> is your non-font-lock use of help-echo? > > > > Marcin, are you actually asking whether `help-echo' can or > > should be used without font-lock? If so, the answer is YES. >=20 > OK. I didn't know (and still don't) what help-echo is for, hence my > question. (And I even don't know how to ask Emacs that question, aside > from grepping the source.) `C-h i' Elisp `i help-echo TAB' shows you these nodes: 1. help-echo (overlay property) 2. help-echo (text property) 3. help-echo, customization keyword=20 4. 'help-echo' event (Visiting #1 also presents a link to node `Text help-echo', which is apparently misdirected. See bug #22986.) (TAB will not show you #4 unless you have substring completion. See bug #22987. I use Icicles and `S-TAB' to see the candidates.) If you visit those nodes you will learn how `help-echo' is used and how you can use it yourself in your code. If you find that the doc for this is not clear enough please consider filing a bug report to improve it. Thx.