From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.io!.POSTED.blaine.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Phil Sainty Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.bugs Subject: bug#58513: describe-function should say that defconst variables are constant Date: Sat, 15 Oct 2022 01:35:41 +1300 Message-ID: <8fae3292e6c1b175853b557060d05487@webmail.orcon.net.nz> References: <87zgdy8ug8.fsf@gnus.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Injection-Info: ciao.gmane.io; posting-host="blaine.gmane.org:116.202.254.214"; logging-data="7632"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@ciao.gmane.io" User-Agent: Orcon Webmail Cc: Stefan Kangas , 58513@debbugs.gnu.org To: Lars Ingebrigtsen Original-X-From: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Fri Oct 14 14:36:20 2022 Return-path: Envelope-to: geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane-mx.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([209.51.188.17]) by ciao.gmane.io with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1ojJvI-0001ks-6A for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane-mx.org; Fri, 14 Oct 2022 14:36:20 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:35778 helo=lists1p.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1ojJvG-0003Sl-FP for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane-mx.org; Fri, 14 Oct 2022 08:36:18 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::10]:36808) by lists.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1ojJv0-0003QC-Gh for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Fri, 14 Oct 2022 08:36:02 -0400 Original-Received: from debbugs.gnu.org ([209.51.188.43]:37052) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_128_GCM_SHA256:128) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1ojJv0-0004tp-7N for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Fri, 14 Oct 2022 08:36:02 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-debbugs by debbugs.gnu.org with local (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1ojJuz-0001h4-QK for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Fri, 14 Oct 2022 08:36:01 -0400 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Resent-From: Phil Sainty Original-Sender: "Debbugs-submit" Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Resent-Date: Fri, 14 Oct 2022 12:36:01 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 58513 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs Original-Received: via spool by 58513-submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B58513.16657509486485 (code B ref 58513); Fri, 14 Oct 2022 12:36:01 +0000 Original-Received: (at 58513) by debbugs.gnu.org; 14 Oct 2022 12:35:48 +0000 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:36130 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1ojJum-0001gX-Id for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Fri, 14 Oct 2022 08:35:48 -0400 Original-Received: from smtp-2.orcon.net.nz ([60.234.4.43]:51757) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1ojJuk-0001gN-2x for 58513@debbugs.gnu.org; Fri, 14 Oct 2022 08:35:46 -0400 Original-Received: from [10.253.37.70] (port=38100 helo=webmail.orcon.net.nz) by smtp-2.orcon.net.nz with esmtpa (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1ojJuf-0003MT-HQ; Sat, 15 Oct 2022 01:35:41 +1300 Original-Received: from ip-116-251-140-135.kinect.net.nz ([116.251.140.135]) via [10.253.37.253] by webmail.orcon.net.nz with HTTP (HTTP/1.1 POST); Sat, 15 Oct 2022 01:35:41 +1300 In-Reply-To: <87zgdy8ug8.fsf@gnus.org> X-Sender: psainty@orcon.net.nz X-GeoIP: -- X-Spam_score: -2.9 X-Spam_score_int: -28 X-Spam_bar: -- X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list X-BeenThere: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org List-Id: "Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "bug-gnu-emacs" Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.bugs:245425 Archived-At: On 2022-10-15 01:23, Lars Ingebrigtsen wrote: > I thought it was just syntactic sugar, saying what our intentions > for the variable is. Yes, I think "not intended to be modified" is the gist. Whether or not modifications would actually cause problems is unknown. > But it doesn't really... do anything It does at least one thing different: if you load or eval a defconst for a variable which already exists, the value is updated.