From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Xah Lee Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.help Subject: Re: how to remove a menu item? Date: Sat, 7 Feb 2009 11:47:23 -0800 (PST) Organization: http://groups.google.com Message-ID: <8f2a9524-c524-49ff-895b-db098038e2cd@y23g2000pre.googlegroups.com> References: <49e5ffec-55fe-433d-b489-0f4c82ab3aff@y23g2000pre.googlegroups.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: lo.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1234119020 7397 80.91.229.12 (8 Feb 2009 18:50:20 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Sun, 8 Feb 2009 18:50:20 +0000 (UTC) To: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Original-X-From: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Sun Feb 08 19:51:34 2009 Return-path: Envelope-to: geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([199.232.76.165]) by lo.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.50) id 1LWEkY-0003gY-VE for geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Sun, 08 Feb 2009 19:51:27 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:39205 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1LWEjB-0005rQ-04 for geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Sun, 08 Feb 2009 13:50:01 -0500 Original-Path: news.stanford.edu!newsfeed.stanford.edu!postnews.google.com!y23g2000pre.googlegroups.com!not-for-mail Original-Newsgroups: gnu.emacs.help,comp.emacs Original-Lines: 31 Original-NNTP-Posting-Host: 24.6.175.142 Original-X-Trace: posting.google.com 1234036043 1142 127.0.0.1 (7 Feb 2009 19:47:23 GMT) Original-X-Complaints-To: groups-abuse@google.com Original-NNTP-Posting-Date: Sat, 7 Feb 2009 19:47:23 +0000 (UTC) Complaints-To: groups-abuse@google.com Injection-Info: y23g2000pre.googlegroups.com; posting-host=24.6.175.142; posting-account=bRPKjQoAAACxZsR8_VPXCX27T2YcsyMA User-Agent: G2/1.0 X-HTTP-UserAgent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; U; PPC Mac OS X 10_4_11; en) AppleWebKit/525.27.1 (KHTML, like Gecko) Version/3.2.1 Safari/525.27.1, gzip(gfe), gzip(gfe) Original-Xref: news.stanford.edu gnu.emacs.help:166673 comp.emacs:97764 X-Mailman-Approved-At: Sun, 08 Feb 2009 13:34:35 -0500 X-BeenThere: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Users list for the GNU Emacs text editor List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Original-Sender: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Errors-To: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.help:62006 Archived-At: On Feb 3, 8:32 am, "B. T. Raven" wrote: > > Following is a removal of a bunch for those interested. > ... > > It seems like you are gutting so much of themenuthat it would be > easier to setmenu-bar-mode to nil. Except for reassigning modifier keys > (with KeyTweak) and putting cursor movement on the c,h,t,n keys > (necessary with the Dvorak layout) I have found it prudent to leave most > of the rest of RMS's mnemonic bindings alone. What you may end up with > after all your work is just aXahLee minor mode. Anyway, I do agree > that eventually some attention should be given to ergonomic issues but > the problems are so vast especially when internationalization is taken > into account that the job will have to be given to a committee rather > than an individual. > > Ed just wrote up some reasons about the emacs menu usability. its based on screenshots and drawings... so here http://xahlee.org/emacs/modernization_menu.html or http://xahlee.blogspot.com/2009/02/emacs-menu-usability-problem.html (image here wont show unless you have it cached) Xah =E2=88=91 http://xahlee.org/ =E2=98=84