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List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.devel:320595 Archived-At: On 24/06/2024 05:28, Eli Zaretskii wrote: >> From: Stefan Monnier >> Cc:dancol@dancol.org, Alan Mackenzie, >> stefankangas@gmail.com,emacs-devel@gnu.org >> Date: Sun, 23 Jun 2024 15:52:16 -0400 >> >>> Does anyone have a problem with an optional package which, when >>> loaded, binds some keys to its commands? >> I do: merely loading a file shouldn't make such changes. > I didn't say "merely loading". There's windmove-mode, for example. FWIW, windmove-mode is on by default (and autoloaded). Just without any key bindings set up.