From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!.POSTED!not-for-mail From: Drew Adams Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.help Subject: RE: Using "Emacs Configure" **and** modifying .emacs Date: Thu, 10 Aug 2017 11:06:53 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <8df0e20a-7106-4c6f-a4e0-299a1f8cd0e5@default> References: <1502373086.1171866.1069247696.71F9FED4@webmail.messagingengine.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: blaine.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Trace: blaine.gmane.org 1502388459 19396 195.159.176.226 (10 Aug 2017 18:07:39 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@blaine.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Thu, 10 Aug 2017 18:07:39 +0000 (UTC) To: Dan Espen , help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Original-X-From: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Thu Aug 10 20:07:27 2017 Return-path: Envelope-to: geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([208.118.235.17]) by blaine.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1dfrri-0004IJ-63 for geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Thu, 10 Aug 2017 20:07:26 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:54588 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1dfrro-0008Pe-6M for geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Thu, 10 Aug 2017 14:07:32 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::10]:33557) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1dfrrJ-0008PM-2u for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Thu, 10 Aug 2017 14:07:02 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1dfrrG-0004Wb-Fn for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Thu, 10 Aug 2017 14:07:01 -0400 Original-Received: from userp1040.oracle.com ([156.151.31.81]:47938) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.0:DHE_RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA1:32) (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1dfrrG-0004VE-4z for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Thu, 10 Aug 2017 14:06:58 -0400 Original-Received: from userv0022.oracle.com (userv0022.oracle.com [156.151.31.74]) by userp1040.oracle.com (Sentrion-MTA-4.3.2/Sentrion-MTA-4.3.2) with ESMTP id v7AI6sa1018885 (version=TLSv1.2 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 bits=256 verify=OK); Thu, 10 Aug 2017 18:06:55 GMT Original-Received: from userv0122.oracle.com (userv0122.oracle.com [156.151.31.75]) by userv0022.oracle.com (8.14.4/8.14.4) with ESMTP id v7AI6svl003362 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 bits=256 verify=OK); Thu, 10 Aug 2017 18:06:54 GMT Original-Received: from abhmp0010.oracle.com (abhmp0010.oracle.com [141.146.116.16]) by userv0122.oracle.com (8.14.4/8.14.4) with ESMTP id v7AI6slo019477; Thu, 10 Aug 2017 18:06:54 GMT In-Reply-To: X-Priority: 3 X-Mailer: Oracle Beehive Extensions for Outlook 2.0.1.9.1 (1003210) [OL 12.0.6774.5000 (x86)] X-Source-IP: userv0022.oracle.com [156.151.31.74] X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.4.x-2.6.x [generic] [fuzzy] X-Received-From: 156.151.31.81 X-BeenThere: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.21 Precedence: list List-Id: Users list for the GNU Emacs text editor List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "help-gnu-emacs" Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.help:113971 Archived-At: > > (IMHO, *everyone* should use variable `custom-file', to > > keep Customize away from their init file.) >=20 > I'm doing fine using customize and manual changes to .emacs. I guess you mean that you use Customize and make manual changes to your init file, but you do not use `custom-file'.=20 > Emacs keeps all it's changes in one place in the .emacs > without any special care on my part. So far anyway. Yes, it does. And provided you make your manual changes only in _other_ places in the file, the two of you can cohabit that space copacetically. Certainly doable. Been there; done that. But is it generally a good idea to let a program modify a file that you also edit manually? IMO, that's just asking for trouble, like using the same container for cleaning fluid and fruit juice, making sure to wash it carefully in between. Doable. But not worth it. And it provides NO benefit (that I can see). What reason is there NOT to just point to a separate sandbox for Customize to play with and mess around in? Simple, one-time. End of story. No?