From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.io!.POSTED.blaine.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Al Eisner Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.help Subject: Re: Odd problem with window geometry Date: Tue, 3 Dec 2024 21:30:15 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <8c42a086-eca8-9365-2ba3-26c44d3aaf44@slac.stanford.edu> References: <6daecdb7-9495-7467-6956-31131ec38482@slac.stanford.edu> <86mshdw3y8.fsf@fastmail.fm> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset=US-ASCII Injection-Info: ciao.gmane.io; posting-host="blaine.gmane.org:116.202.254.214"; logging-data="15361"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@ciao.gmane.io" Cc: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org To: Joost Kremers Original-X-From: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Wed Dec 04 06:31:26 2024 Return-path: Envelope-to: geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane-mx.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([209.51.188.17]) by ciao.gmane.io with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1tIhyv-0003kA-QH for geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane-mx.org; Wed, 04 Dec 2024 06:31:26 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1] helo=lists1p.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1tIhy6-0002OD-8O; Wed, 04 Dec 2024 00:30:34 -0500 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::10]) by lists.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1tIhy3-0002Nu-5K for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Wed, 04 Dec 2024 00:30:31 -0500 Original-Received: from slac-mailgate.slac.stanford.edu ([52.250.90.85]) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1tIhxz-0005Dg-ME for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Wed, 04 Dec 2024 00:30:30 -0500 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=slac.stanford.edu; s=default; t=1733290222; bh=vgypMZflWgdwynJtrIkcPpWUCzxo/KktTw0MtpD/q2E=; h=Date:From:To:cc:Subject:In-Reply-To:References; b=FKEXRDHP4A5eCyY2iUhQzKvjG5Qkb1H/xERRTaDmQtIJlZyNeVQrafSa4x0IGU4NV plHvMmI7iyfNbUu/rep2CV7Wfm5ZaVzmCkOqS/69w/mBZV4/DR07RVLMOj/dFgRyMe nznzQ4f0gn3FgxfJemFSyTdWFXF5/3xwKNcZ0JIk= Original-Received: from stanford.edu (mx0a-00000d07.pphosted.com [67.231.149.169]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by az-mg-01.slac.stanford.edu (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 3CA1642B8B; Tue, 3 Dec 2024 21:30:22 -0800 (PST) Original-Received: from m0342464.ppops.net (m0342464.ppops.net [127.0.0.1]) by pps.slac_mg (8.18.0.8/8.18.0.8) with ESMTP id 4B45ULf1019443; Tue, 3 Dec 2024 21:30:21 -0800 Original-Received: from stanford.edu (mx0a-00000d08.pphosted.com [208.84.65.155]) by mx0a-00000d07.pphosted.com (PPS) with ESMTPS id 438pwf8ud7-1 (version=TLSv1.2 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 bits=256 verify=NOT); Tue, 03 Dec 2024 21:30:21 -0800 (PST) Original-Received: from m0342817.ppops.net (m0342817.ppops.net [127.0.0.1]) by pps.inb_pod (8.18.0.8/8.18.0.8) with ESMTP id 4B45ULg0001930; Tue, 3 Dec 2024 21:30:21 -0800 Original-Received: from cy4pr02cu008.outbound.protection.outlook.com (mail-westcentralusazlp17011028.outbound.protection.outlook.com [40.93.6.28]) by mx0a-00000d08.pphosted.com (PPS) with ESMTPS id 43a7mt13e9-1 (version=TLSv1.2 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 bits=256 verify=NOT); Tue, 03 Dec 2024 21:30:20 -0800 (PST) ARC-Seal: i=1; a=rsa-sha256; s=arcselector10001; d=microsoft.com; cv=none; b=HgN2Q1BduT0opLcgKT+ow/KN1QFcuR+Nb3Ntl3XjCBF303CMUAyDOxVDKFtdnH2IlImxICT/Yb7sqMQKsuNC324o7y7tkSWqFYsfIsa3fBgiyMo/fVIsxGQ7O4OyCPId3FYlTmj7RStpehXQGgShbkNUwil9CbYbcHrS1RrMU/a5lbNGuGs57QzdcfKHzLLFL0pR7VAbJFpui/GYCeK33d6sa/DBG/cEzu4bn2ShoglbqTRV39WOL24iNJ68lkM1DoKY8Zvx7561ousCxGxiOOrM172agZTQuQK/8gUdHOhjdAFHMfG061e8KQ3EN/dJ4HtPNfDyyBra4GUiKrbE8A== ARC-Message-Signature: i=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=microsoft.com; s=arcselector10001; h=From:Date:Subject:Message-ID:Content-Type:MIME-Version:X-MS-Exchange-AntiSpam-MessageData-ChunkCount:X-MS-Exchange-AntiSpam-MessageData-0:X-MS-Exchange-AntiSpam-MessageData-1; bh=vgypMZflWgdwynJtrIkcPpWUCzxo/KktTw0MtpD/q2E=; b=zCVG3NN955UmvX0pQLH186HKCk60ElIxJX+NG1dSRB1xXpv5hnXUip2MTsXY7FbZYFjg5k+O4Qp89rVqL+5z6IYrys7WOBRSGhqx66LC+SeYArjYYAyKu0DJRKXyELauZXYe5kjZEeGTert6KijSf/vpAuEXrvIQYV6nUsKwIXUvAAYgm7iTTr2gM5B02Z6Hfr80q0LfoQji41Egw3pdfycH1DZYfRtymtAmzzOOi4paLKKTr911DiCnGMCwjpmkBQOCiWoyPc1CAfWJRPymRNKpEgoNBUfMfdP1bahz20cEYxd2L8KCLTbcD6SzpQOkwiKQPRPwyLvnoDY/lIHISw== ARC-Authentication-Results: i=1; mx.microsoft.com 1; spf=pass smtp.mailfrom=slac.stanford.edu; dmarc=pass action=none header.from=slac.stanford.edu; dkim=pass header.d=slac.stanford.edu; arc=none Original-Received: from MN2PR07MB7039.namprd07.prod.outlook.com (2603:10b6:208:1ac::11) by PH0PR07MB8510.namprd07.prod.outlook.com (2603:10b6:510:9e::6) with Microsoft SMTP Server (version=TLS1_2, cipher=TLS_ECDHE_RSA_WITH_AES_256_GCM_SHA384) id 15.20.8230.11; Wed, 4 Dec 2024 05:30:16 +0000 Original-Received: from MN2PR07MB7039.namprd07.prod.outlook.com ([fe80::4575:cf29:185b:25c8]) by MN2PR07MB7039.namprd07.prod.outlook.com ([fe80::4575:cf29:185b:25c8%6]) with mapi id 15.20.8207.017; Wed, 4 Dec 2024 05:30:16 +0000 In-Reply-To: <86mshdw3y8.fsf@fastmail.fm> X-ClientProxiedBy: BYAPR08CA0029.namprd08.prod.outlook.com (2603:10b6:a03:100::42) To MN2PR07MB7039.namprd07.prod.outlook.com (2603:10b6:208:1ac::11) X-MS-PublicTrafficType: Email X-MS-TrafficTypeDiagnostic: MN2PR07MB7039:EE_|PH0PR07MB8510:EE_ X-MS-Office365-Filtering-Correlation-Id: 2f930226-06eb-4539-d933-08dd1424bc0a X-LD-Processed: cef2ae5a-2666-4716-9b60-e88e2aebf49a,ExtAddr X-MS-Exchange-SenderADCheck: 1 X-MS-Exchange-AntiSpam-Relay: 0 X-Microsoft-Antispam: BCL:0;ARA:13230040|366016|376014|1800799024; X-Microsoft-Antispam-Message-Info: =?us-ascii?Q?fkhdNl45dRGAZEG9URH5haAVvOvBytuHuaL1+QNz6BsHKgAmaqWUi3tSPXew?= =?us-ascii?Q?ZsO3XPhclXwg1xndGtOGFgfZwFkmJWRN07MI4cDi7hKIrN6nQXyEXAhbIIEW?= =?us-ascii?Q?f/dpmnmBLgIhJtqNazY2qpO3LiHCMbYpta3WlsC4A2Hb819xzEOjDLC0iGZk?= =?us-ascii?Q?B9u1oNn1gg82Usn7jV4nwEjDpz9yscWqxHQPMQKcbdCbvCOSExyCDZ74K2J6?= =?us-ascii?Q?cBlAwpTB0kXVPRUvw9yUXA4cjeoRhw6/hxvgzCEMIpNSFdtF/LgFSyfaF5ds?= =?us-ascii?Q?S6dzVGKI9SRao7MdG5bH5gLezikQoyohKNUp92E5sdWWD/m4uzcdi6hCGT4x?= =?us-ascii?Q?pprJZOAZwRPwTBMlT/z9SdR/0w30y2Xz9Y+6mtbhZ5rtfSv/yFQ357mx0l+4?= =?us-ascii?Q?ZZumAIM6fGHekmyC96eR0+kgDY02/JaexVZvqiX9r/LxG9n5S4s/EgXJVhrj?= =?us-ascii?Q?D77RaTOj9eLNi7bgtNIx27V4rQPwVz/WkhO3Q7ugur/NadGR4tJo49U3ubu4?= =?us-ascii?Q?xDJyhUNbU7FrqiZsgUMSNfbSCNhkjaKlkDjkoR+jLZ9Drorbi6OUJGOE/Gqq?= =?us-ascii?Q?ecAkirlkYolSQ4dJ4R1sKLLB1p2OH81Mbg2VLrQQHcAOw+amGgT00lI/LPlg?= =?us-ascii?Q?FYSqT X-Forefront-Antispam-Report: CIP:255.255.255.255; CTRY:; LANG:en; SCL:1; SRV:; IPV:NLI; SFV:NSPM; H:MN2PR07MB7039.namprd07.prod.outlook.com; PTR:; CAT:NONE; SFS:(13230040)(366016)(376014)(1800799024); DIR:OUT; SFP:1101; X-MS-Exchange-AntiSpam-MessageData-ChunkCount: 1 X-MS-Exchange-AntiSpam-MessageData-0: =?us-ascii?Q?4bqiCVLAOy6Jj8pcPSxBi1B+EvuXCuf0cWjvBvMBuq6DJ5SPJoRr2c6/FYvi?= =?us-ascii?Q?pth/IeGjOdbZYrBshqTkT/7faDiZHsbUU+GlJAk+d3XOQM9nVH6bGfiha6+9?= =?us-ascii?Q?n4xUiezPEjKkvu5zArIPqmrM5Nl3Es3bTnfaf+Xw6Z989JzOxUWJMbpERPmo?= =?us-ascii?Q?idGKheu7GkTKnGDsbkrpYqBBxaJdz5H0s2PPzu6/0/00Rfgo7Tm3fe+jqXwc?= =?us-ascii?Q?wvMMVRGwtfuZfJ8uas0B7XGrwukXSaTEnVpcTBpvUdc6Gw7nkzbYtiAk6PMO?= =?us-ascii?Q?D11e4M8TOnkXRrq4eqW06LSOAYnVi4xuANjiUiXJKGnZqaGFxQJqsczWWzf+?= =?us-ascii?Q?rBT7EueXB3lBpfrod6/tPSkwwSROqqW1hl1nejLfBQhPvwkEkUKK1Ck/PnOr?= =?us-ascii?Q?3zvDoZs9iqH2WrI7ggjbHLosSeIwLd+4FMK0d6HAciGr06tfmjEmhADVidm+?= =?us-ascii?Q?eU6eghBdt+CLZLNwU0jUPXJF9lQxeuAuTwaEk3pt9fG7HgdGQpKYozAESKTX?= =?us-ascii?Q?RBpaOJ8VQn6HIepQ7+KouL3U2Tr8r274tbn9y2zcJKOixWFrq4BztbJTqsn2?= =?us-ascii?Q?LGJmzppg9C4cE+uDwkBv92BJm7uyHgCEYYrGJ8qvMMuNmJOvtoPP9LWtS7/M?= =?us-ascii?Q?J7 X-MS-Exchange-AntiSpam-ExternalHop-MessageData-ChunkCount: 1 X-MS-Exchange-AntiSpam-ExternalHop-MessageData-0: 6vY0KPwocyfI7FbzzPHOfRbCE/W7GU/mXka5SHohdhfOF4UxvBhpwac6NMaqcRFHzfJIAXe+1ATXjCPYSfaVAO9b7e06Ck7w/b2LYyoBjBpe0H3tifx0yX1CKhpiIlXn62SJNnggcZrwApTfuKh5BJ1UkBDDbYzYLta0fk++dccG4Vj82EqXSSJxaZc9IF1ORK4TQUafC0v5QlVo818Mk1HKMjrONohq5AECde2Ga4Rjg8TE6gGdpBnEW/3JRxtmZM2sf6T/DiH8avDU+GzHpLT4oeeTkEgfCoNNFDwJ3EaeRvu4zOD01/7WchWraNoD+IUjK1E38MV4KoJ6UqlDShYAr40++QwgldFDqESKFTGa3yCzNXhzY5TsIbdzUMFFQyPvnzdCDcY1esoKRSylsd1LWCmXcU4Y2M8LCdX36Kchm6MZw+uE5za1aVhORtMp8r9bw9c2JklhwhOr9/FTv2GHCAKpOprY9/d11lIwLm8el7TEvfMtLRzaMQ5tJKa6agZxG/OHbwaKeWq1f/+SCuQUdO5UnfxuixskqvX5sOnmeRvi2965i2MNHx0+rqgiKBIbBWH5ofTl7a+SSrvsqtbtbkvu93oB1E2PlUD/fw6SNuAcxoS4RyXSN09dKsEf7wA/MzBQ/Z9zgtmR50ZW+A== X-OriginatorOrg: slac.stanford.edu X-MS-Exchange-CrossTenant-Network-Message-Id: 2f930226-06eb-4539-d933-08dd1424bc0a X-MS-Exchange-CrossTenant-AuthSource: MN2PR07MB7039.namprd07.prod.outlook.com X-MS-Exchange-CrossTenant-AuthAs: Internal X-MS-Exchange-CrossTenant-OriginalArrivalTime: 04 Dec 2024 05:30:16.3760 (UTC) X-MS-Exchange-CrossTenant-FromEntityHeader: Hosted X-MS-Exchange-CrossTenant-Id: cef2ae5a-2666-4716-9b60-e88e2aebf49a X-MS-Exchange-CrossTenant-MailboxType: HOSTED X-MS-Exchange-CrossTenant-UserPrincipalName: cFVbHV3K6XTXiKLxnW5mZ7qs/AIcJ4JTPLpqxSWon0LQGJfGwCXS+Ud71L//SwAwfIZVLkOFfycdv+w3QYAC2qitKbNCEHgagpSWtffOAg0= X-MS-Exchange-Transport-CrossTenantHeadersStamped: PH0PR07MB8510 X-Proofpoint-ORIG-GUID: QgnsxjCk2SuElXkz8kDMgfiUefON1yEi X-Proofpoint-GUID: QgnsxjCk2SuElXkz8kDMgfiUefON1yEi X-Proofpoint-Virus-Version: vendor=baseguard engine=ICAP:2.0.293,Aquarius:18.0.1051,Hydra:6.0.680,FMLib:17.12.62.30 definitions=2024-10-05_03,2024-10-04_01,2024-09-30_01 X-Proofpoint-Spam-Details: rule=notspam policy=default score=0 malwarescore=0 adultscore=0 priorityscore=1501 clxscore=1015 mlxscore=0 suspectscore=0 phishscore=0 spamscore=0 mlxlogscore=999 lowpriorityscore=0 impostorscore=0 bulkscore=0 classifier=spam adjust=0 reason=mlx scancount=1 engine=8.19.0-2411120000 definitions=main-2412040043 X-Proofpoint-Virus-Version: vendor=baseguard engine=ICAP:2.0.293,Aquarius:18.0.1051,Hydra:6.0.680,FMLib:17.12.62.30 definitions=2024-10-05_03,2024-10-04_01,2024-09-30_01 Received-SPF: pass client-ip=52.250.90.85; envelope-from=eisner@slac.stanford.edu; helo=slac-mailgate.slac.stanford.edu X-Spam_score_int: -19 X-Spam_score: -2.0 X-Spam_bar: -- X-Spam_report: (-2.0 / 5.0 requ) BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, RCVD_IN_VALIDITY_CERTIFIED_BLOCKED=0.001, RCVD_IN_VALIDITY_RPBL_BLOCKED=0.001, SPF_HELO_NONE=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001 autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no X-Spam_action: no action X-BeenThere: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: Users list for the GNU Emacs text editor List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.help:148588 Archived-At: Well, I've tried the two time-delay patches in the second link below without success. I suspect I am missing something and they may not be executing. For example, I increased the sleep time on the suggestion in the last response in that thread, but the startup doesn't seem to be sleeping.... Al On Tue, 3 Dec 2024, Joost Kremers wrote: > BEWARE: This email originated outside of our organization. DO NOT CLICK links or attachments unless you recognize the sender and know the content is safe. > > > On Sun, Dec 01 2024, Al Eisner wrote: >> I have had a consistent problem in starting up emacs on a Rocky 9 Linux >> platform. (I have no control over the machine, but it appears to be >> using emacs-27.2.) If I specify window size (with either -g or --geometry) >> on the command line, I first see a window of appropriate size (which >> changes when I change the values), but then as initialization completes >> it collapses to a window with only 3 or 4 lines; there is also a small >> change in width. This happens whether or not I have a .emacs file. (I >> have no other initializtion file.) I have longed used emacs on both >> Redhat=6 Linix and Linux OS-7, with no such problem, but I think the >> emacs version there was 25. In case it matters, I use XMing as my X >> server, but that is unchanged from my usage on the other platforms. >> >> Does this behavior ring a bell with anyone? I must be missing something. >> Thanks. > > There was a problem similar to this with Emacs 28, I think, maybe also with > 29. I actually ran into it myself, and I remember finding the solution, but > I don't remember the details... If I'm not mistaken, it was something about > the toolkit being used in combination with the windowing system. Could be a > Wayland version of Emacs on X, or the other way around, I don't remember... > > FWIW, I'm running Emacs 29 compiled with PGTK on Gnome+Wayland, and the > issue does not occur anymore. > > There is some discussion at > https://emacs.stackexchange.com/questions/77667/emacs-starts-in-extremely-tiny-window > and https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi/bugreport.cgi?bug=67654, including some > suggestions for work-arounds. > > -- > Joost Kremers > Life has its moments > --