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From: "Mattias Engdegård" <mattiase@acm.org>
To: Eli Zaretskii <eliz@gnu.org>
Cc: michael.albinus@gmx.de, 35418@debbugs.gnu.org
Subject: bug#35418: [PATCH] Don't poll auto-revert files that use notification
Date: Wed, 01 May 2019 21:41:38 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <8bbbdc62bee1dc16b6fd684e7da5ffac43f1e232.camel@acm.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <834l6eqdam.fsf@gnu.org>

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ons 2019-05-01 klockan 20:45 +0300 skrev Eli Zaretskii:
> 
> Didn't yet review the patch, but I don't understand the difficulty
> with moving 'Auto-reverting non-buffer files' into Auto-revert.  Can
> you explain what gets in the way?

After applying the patch, the on-line manual would have the nodes

* Reverting (about reverting)
* Auto-revert (about auto-revert)
* Non-file buffers (about auto-reverting non-file buffers)
** Auto-reverting the buffer menu
** Auto-reverting Dired

but I'd rather have

* Reverting (about reverting)
* Auto-revert (about auto-revert, including non-buffer files)
** Auto-reverting the buffer menu
** Auto-reverting Dired

except that in the printed manual, the non-buffer part is a section of
its own. The attached patch hacks around it by removing @node and
@section from arevert-xtra.texi; perhaps it can be stomached.


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From 21c4451f463700e2a6f7a256b214eed89a9e3d3d Mon Sep 17 00:00:00 2001
From: =?UTF-8?q?Mattias=20Engdeg=C3=A5rd?= <mattiase@acm.org>
Date: Tue, 30 Apr 2019 22:35:56 +0200
Subject: [PATCH] Reorganise (auto-)revert nodes in the manual

The amount of information on auto-revert has grown to deserve a
section of its own (bug#35418).

* doc/emacs/files.texi:
* doc/emacs/arevert-xtra.texi:
* doc/emacs/buffers.texi:
* doc/emacs/emacs.texi:
* doc/emacs/emacs-xtra.texi:
Add node 'Auto-revert' and move general information on that topic there.
Sort paragraphs in that node in a rough least-to-most specific order.
Include the old 'Autorevert' node into that node when building the
on-line manual.
---
 doc/emacs/arevert-xtra.texi |  3 +-
 doc/emacs/buffers.texi      |  4 +--
 doc/emacs/emacs-xtra.texi   |  2 ++
 doc/emacs/emacs.texi        |  4 +--
 doc/emacs/files.texi        | 60 +++++++++++++++++++++----------------
 5 files changed, 40 insertions(+), 33 deletions(-)

diff --git a/doc/emacs/arevert-xtra.texi b/doc/emacs/arevert-xtra.texi
index cd7c1ff895..8cc5b053b5 100644
--- a/doc/emacs/arevert-xtra.texi
+++ b/doc/emacs/arevert-xtra.texi
@@ -4,8 +4,7 @@
 @c
 @c This file is included either in emacs-xtra.texi (when producing the
 @c printed version) or in the main Emacs manual (for the on-line version).
-@node Autorevert
-@section Auto Reverting Non-File Buffers
+@c The including file must provide its own @node and @section lines.
 
 Global Auto Revert Mode normally only reverts file buffers.  There are
 two ways to auto-revert certain non-file buffers: by enabling Auto
diff --git a/doc/emacs/buffers.texi b/doc/emacs/buffers.texi
index 27fcb7369a..14a0a01ca8 100644
--- a/doc/emacs/buffers.texi
+++ b/doc/emacs/buffers.texi
@@ -568,10 +568,10 @@ Several Buffers
 Auto Revert mode applies to the @file{*Buffer List*} buffer only if
 @code{global-auto-revert-non-file-buffers} is non-@code{nil}.
 @iftex
-@inforef{Autorevert,, emacs-xtra}, for details.
+@inforef{Auto Reverting the Buffer Menu,, emacs-xtra}, for details.
 @end iftex
 @ifnottex
-@xref{Autorevert, global-auto-revert-non-file-buffers}, for details.
+@xref{Auto Reverting the Buffer Menu, global-auto-revert-non-file-buffers}, for details.
 @end ifnottex
 
 @node Indirect Buffers
diff --git a/doc/emacs/emacs-xtra.texi b/doc/emacs/emacs-xtra.texi
index dcd8fae1b6..b63f222621 100644
--- a/doc/emacs/emacs-xtra.texi
+++ b/doc/emacs/emacs-xtra.texi
@@ -111,6 +111,8 @@ Introduction
 @raisesections
 @include picture-xtra.texi
 
+@node Non-file buffers
+@section Auto Reverting Non-File Buffers
 @include arevert-xtra.texi
 
 @include dired-xtra.texi
diff --git a/doc/emacs/emacs.texi b/doc/emacs/emacs.texi
index 58ec373029..0fc34dd63d 100644
--- a/doc/emacs/emacs.texi
+++ b/doc/emacs/emacs.texi
@@ -443,9 +443,7 @@ Top
 * Visiting::            Visiting a file prepares Emacs to edit the file.
 * Saving::              Saving makes your changes permanent.
 * Reverting::           Reverting cancels all the changes not saved.
-@ifnottex
-* Autorevert::          Auto Reverting non-file buffers.
-@end ifnottex
+* Auto-revert::         Keeping buffers automatically up-to-date.
 * Auto Save::           Auto Save periodically protects against loss of data.
 * File Aliases::        Handling multiple names for one file.
 * Directories::         Creating, deleting, and listing file directories.
diff --git a/doc/emacs/files.texi b/doc/emacs/files.texi
index 990b8f1679..104cb24e82 100644
--- a/doc/emacs/files.texi
+++ b/doc/emacs/files.texi
@@ -25,9 +25,7 @@ Files
 * Visiting::            Visiting a file prepares Emacs to edit the file.
 * Saving::              Saving makes your changes permanent.
 * Reverting::           Reverting cancels all the changes not saved.
-@ifnottex
-* Autorevert::          Auto Reverting non-file buffers.
-@end ifnottex
+* Auto-revert::         Keeping buffers automatically up-to-date.
 * Auto Save::           Auto Save periodically protects against loss of data.
 * File Aliases::        Handling multiple names for one file.
 * Directories::         Creating, deleting, and listing file directories.
@@ -955,6 +953,11 @@ Reverting
 is not modified.  (If you have edited the text, it would be wrong to
 discard your changes.)
 
+  You can also tell Emacs to revert buffers automatically when their
+visited files change on disk; @pxref{Auto-revert}.
+
+@node Auto-revert
+@section Auto-revert: Keeping buffers automatically up-to-date
 @cindex Global Auto Revert mode
 @cindex mode, Global Auto Revert
 @cindex Auto Revert mode
@@ -962,21 +965,38 @@ Reverting
 @findex global-auto-revert-mode
 @findex auto-revert-mode
 @findex auto-revert-tail-mode
-@vindex auto-revert-interval
-@vindex auto-revert-remote-files
+
+  A buffer can get out of sync with respect to its visited file on
+disk if that file is changed by another program.  To keep it up to
+date, you can enable Auto-revert mode by typing @kbd{M-x auto-revert-mode}.
+This automatically reverts the buffer when its visited file changes on
+disk.  To do the same for all file buffers, type
+@kbd{M-x global-auto-revert-mode} to enable Global Auto-Revert mode.
+
+  Auto-revert will not revert a buffer if it has unsaved changes, or if
+its file on disk is deleted or renamed.
+
+  One use of Auto-Revert mode is to ``tail'' a file such as a system
+log, so that changes made to that file by other programs are
+continuously displayed.  To do this, just move the point to the end of
+the buffer, and it will stay there as the file contents change.
+However, if you are sure that the file will only change by growing at
+the end, use Auto-Revert Tail mode instead
+(@code{auto-revert-tail-mode}).  It is more efficient for this.
+Auto-Revert Tail mode also works for remote files.
+
 @vindex auto-revert-verbose
-  You can also tell Emacs to revert buffers periodically.  To do this
-for a specific buffer, enable the minor mode Auto-Revert mode by
-typing @kbd{M-x auto-revert-mode}.  This automatically reverts the
-current buffer when its visited file changes on disk.  To do the same
-for all file buffers, type @kbd{M-x global-auto-revert-mode} to enable
-Global Auto-Revert mode.  These minor modes do not check or revert
-remote files, because that is usually too slow.  This behavior can be
-changed by setting the variable @code{auto-revert-remote-files} to
-non-@code{nil}.
+  When a buffer is auto-reverted, a message is generated.  This can be
+suppressed by setting @code{auto-revert-verbose} to @code{nil}.
+
+@vindex auto-revert-remote-files
+  These minor modes do not check or revert remote files, because that is
+usually too slow.  This behavior can be changed by setting the
+variable @code{auto-revert-remote-files} to non-@code{nil}.
 
 @cindex file notifications
 @vindex auto-revert-use-notify
+@vindex auto-revert-interval
   By default, Auto-Revert mode works using @dfn{file notifications},
 whereby changes in the filesystem are reported to Emacs by the OS.
 You can disable use of file notifications by customizing the variable
@@ -1002,18 +1022,6 @@ Reverting
 @code{auto-revert-notify-exclude-dir-regexp} to match files that
 should be excluded from using notification.
 
-  One use of Auto-Revert mode is to ``tail'' a file such as a system
-log, so that changes made to that file by other programs are
-continuously displayed.  To do this, just move the point to the end of
-the buffer, and it will stay there as the file contents change.
-However, if you are sure that the file will only change by growing at
-the end, use Auto-Revert Tail mode instead
-(@code{auto-revert-tail-mode}).  It is more efficient for this.
-Auto-Revert Tail mode works also for remote files.
-
-  When a buffer is auto-reverted, a message is generated.  This can be
-suppressed by setting @code{auto-revert-verbose} to @code{nil}.
-
   In Dired buffers (@pxref{Dired}), Auto-Revert mode refreshes the
 buffer when a file is created or deleted in the buffer's directory.
 
-- 
2.20.1


  reply	other threads:[~2019-05-01 19:41 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 101+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2019-04-24 18:14 bug#35418: [PATCH] Don't poll auto-revert files that use notification Mattias Engdegård
2019-04-24 18:58 ` Eli Zaretskii
2019-04-24 19:36   ` Michael Albinus
2019-04-26 20:46     ` Mattias Engdegård
2019-04-27  9:40       ` Michael Albinus
2019-04-27 16:28         ` Mattias Engdegård
2019-04-25  9:56   ` Mattias Engdegård
2019-04-25 10:04     ` Eli Zaretskii
2019-04-25 18:07       ` Mattias Engdegård
2019-04-27  9:27       ` Michael Albinus
2019-04-27  9:54         ` Eli Zaretskii
2019-04-27 10:23           ` Michael Albinus
2019-04-27 16:19         ` Mattias Engdegård
2019-04-27 16:52           ` Eli Zaretskii
2019-04-28 10:21             ` Mattias Engdegård
2019-04-29  7:53               ` Michael Albinus
2019-04-29 11:06                 ` Mattias Engdegård
2019-04-29 12:18                   ` Michael Albinus
2019-04-29 16:24                     ` Eli Zaretskii
2019-04-29 18:29                     ` Mattias Engdegård
2019-04-29 20:17                       ` Michael Albinus
2019-04-30  3:57                         ` Eli Zaretskii
2019-04-30 11:41                           ` Mattias Engdegård
2019-04-30 12:59                             ` Michael Albinus
2019-04-30 13:56                               ` Mattias Engdegård
2019-04-30 14:19                                 ` Michael Albinus
2019-04-29 16:23                   ` Eli Zaretskii
2019-04-29 19:21                     ` Mattias Engdegård
2019-04-29 19:56                       ` Michael Albinus
2019-04-30 21:09                     ` Mattias Engdegård
2019-05-01 17:45                       ` Eli Zaretskii
2019-05-01 19:41                         ` Mattias Engdegård [this message]
2019-05-02 12:18                           ` Michael Albinus
2019-05-02 12:53                             ` Mattias Engdegård
2019-05-02 13:02                               ` Michael Albinus
2019-05-03 12:00                                 ` Mattias Engdegård
2019-05-03 13:44                               ` Eli Zaretskii
2019-05-03 14:47                                 ` Mattias Engdegård
2019-05-04  9:04                                   ` Eli Zaretskii
2019-05-04 11:21                                     ` Mattias Engdegård
2019-05-04 13:41                                       ` Eli Zaretskii
2019-05-04 16:53                                       ` Michael Albinus
2019-05-04 17:08                                         ` Eli Zaretskii
2019-05-04 18:50                                         ` Mattias Engdegård
2019-05-04 19:43                                           ` Michael Albinus
2019-05-04 20:31                                             ` Michael Albinus
2019-05-04 20:46                                               ` Mattias Engdegård
2019-05-05  8:22                                                 ` Michael Albinus
2019-05-05  9:58                                                   ` Mattias Engdegård
2019-05-08  8:34                                                     ` Mattias Engdegård
2019-05-08  8:47                                                       ` Eli Zaretskii
2019-05-08 10:18                                                         ` Mattias Engdegård
2019-05-08 10:58                                                           ` Eli Zaretskii
2019-05-08 11:48                                                             ` Mattias Engdegård
2019-05-08 12:35                                                               ` Eli Zaretskii
2019-05-08 12:58                                                                 ` Mattias Engdegård
2019-05-08 13:09                                                                   ` Michael Albinus
2019-05-08 13:28                                                                   ` Eli Zaretskii
2019-05-08 14:13                                                                     ` Mattias Engdegård
2019-05-08 17:24                                                                       ` Eli Zaretskii
2019-05-08 18:17                                                                         ` Michael Albinus
2019-05-09 11:50                                                               ` Michael Albinus
2019-05-10 15:22                                                                 ` Mattias Engdegård
2019-05-12  8:48                                                                   ` Michael Albinus
2019-05-12 19:49                                                                     ` Mattias Engdegård
2019-05-13 13:35                                                                       ` Michael Albinus
2019-05-14 12:41                                                                         ` Mattias Engdegård
2019-05-14 14:52                                                                           ` Michael Albinus
2019-05-08 10:23                                                       ` Mattias Engdegård
2019-05-09 10:00                                                     ` Mattias Engdegård
2019-05-09 10:48                                                       ` Eli Zaretskii
2019-05-09 11:15                                                         ` Mattias Engdegård
2019-05-10  9:49                                                       ` Michael Albinus
2019-05-10 12:27                                                         ` Mattias Engdegård
2019-05-10 12:43                                                           ` Michael Albinus
2019-05-13 11:34                                                             ` Mattias Engdegård
2019-05-13 15:08                                                               ` Michael Albinus
2019-05-18 17:39                                                                 ` Mattias Engdegård
2019-05-19  9:12                                                                   ` Michael Albinus
2019-05-19 20:25                                                                     ` Mattias Engdegård
2019-05-20  7:30                                                                       ` Michael Albinus
2019-05-20 19:19                                                                         ` Mattias Engdegård
2019-04-29  7:19           ` Michael Albinus
2019-04-29 11:54             ` Mattias Engdegård
2019-04-29 12:26               ` Michael Albinus
2019-04-29 18:58                 ` Mattias Engdegård
2019-04-29 20:04                   ` Michael Albinus
2019-04-30 15:14                   ` Eli Zaretskii
2019-04-24 19:59 ` Michael Albinus
2019-04-25  9:58   ` Mattias Engdegård
2019-04-25 11:04     ` Michael Albinus
2019-04-25 15:22       ` Mattias Engdegård
2019-04-30  1:03 ` Zhang Haijun
2019-04-30  7:06   ` Michael Albinus
2019-05-01  2:17     ` Zhang Haijun
2019-05-01  2:59       ` Zhang Haijun
2019-05-01  3:10         ` Zhang Haijun
2019-05-02 12:30           ` Michael Albinus
2019-05-02 13:24             ` Zhang Haijun
2019-05-02 12:28         ` Michael Albinus
2019-05-02 12:24       ` Michael Albinus

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