From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Daiki Ueno Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel,gmane.emacs.gnus.general Subject: Re: Syncing Gnus and Emacs repositories Date: Wed, 11 Jul 2007 12:43:14 +0900 Message-ID: <8b558f9a-0c2e-467e-8dd4-8958329ea768@well-done.deisui.org> References: <73c8965e-2672-4997-aa32-340b5611d7ae@well-done.deisui.org> NNTP-Posting-Host: lo.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII X-Trace: sea.gmane.org 1184125434 12199 80.91.229.12 (11 Jul 2007 03:43:54 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@sea.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Wed, 11 Jul 2007 03:43:54 +0000 (UTC) Cc: Leo , ding@gnus.org, emacs-devel@gnu.org To: rms@gnu.org Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Wed Jul 11 05:43:50 2007 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([199.232.76.165]) by lo.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.50) id 1I8T7A-0002be-LW for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Wed, 11 Jul 2007 05:43:44 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1I8T7A-0001mC-8s for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Tue, 10 Jul 2007 23:43:44 -0400 Original-Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1I8T76-0001iE-Dd for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Tue, 10 Jul 2007 23:43:40 -0400 Original-Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1I8T74-0001hZ-C3 for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Tue, 10 Jul 2007 23:43:39 -0400 Original-Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1I8T74-0001hW-7N for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Tue, 10 Jul 2007 23:43:38 -0400 Original-Received: from g96069.scn-net.ne.jp ([210.231.96.69] helo=well-done.deisui.org) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS-1.0:RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA1:32) (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1I8T70-0002di-U9; Tue, 10 Jul 2007 23:43:35 -0400 Original-Received: from [150.82.173.223] (helo=well-done.deisui.org) by well-done.deisui.org with esmtps (TLS-1.0:DHE_RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA1:32) (Exim 4.67) (envelope-from ) id 1I8T6p-0001GL-9c; Wed, 11 Jul 2007 12:43:23 +0900 X-Attribution: DU Mail-Copies-To: poster In-Reply-To: (Richard Stallman's message of "Tue, 10 Jul 2007 23:05:29 -0400") X-detected-kernel: Linux 2.6, seldom 2.4 (older, 4) X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:74628 gmane.emacs.gnus.general:64922 Archived-At: >>>>> In >>>>> Richard Stallman wrote: > > Indeed I (the author) did abandoned pgg*.el, and the Gnus trunk does > > not use them by default. > Why doesn't it? Since pgg*.el are now a standard part of Emacs, it > makes sense for Gnus to use them. Because that is the only advantage of PGG. I'm aware of many limitations of PGG. - PGG can't handle a message signed with multiple keys. - PGG can't prompt a user which key is being used. - PGG can't create a binary PGP messages. - PGG doesn't provide a way to select keys per cryptographic operation. - PGG ignores GnuPG's trust metrics. - PGG can't integrate well with mail-mode. - etc. Frankly, (at least) I don't want to extend PGG to support these issues, because that requires almost rewrite of the slightly outdated code (actually, PGG is my first elisp program written about 10 years ago ;-) > What does it use instead? EasyPG. If it is available, Gnus automatically detects it. > If it is possible, let's just move to easypg, of which Daiki is also the > author. > That is a much bigger change, which we'd have to think about. I think that is not so big change. Because it requires just 7 files (epg*.el, epa*.el) to be included. Regards, -- Daiki Ueno