From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Drew Adams Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.bugs Subject: bug#22296: 25.1.50; Document changes to `delete-selection-mode' Date: Sun, 3 Jan 2016 10:52:23 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <8b4cae3f-6f4c-4784-85fc-36a659fe15fd@default> References: <<<<660d1a46-fd5a-460f-8f26-50ba9a52cc60@default>>>> <<<<83mvsmadhv.fsf@gnu.org>>>> <<<940d59ef-c3d6-42df-ba0c-602cc154d431@default>>> <<<834meua953.fsf@gnu.org>>> <<68435980-44a2-4d33-8f64-8fbbdedb4a4e@default>> <<83vb7a8pxi.fsf@gnu.org>> NNTP-Posting-Host: plane.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1451847206 22146 80.91.229.3 (3 Jan 2016 18:53:26 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Sun, 3 Jan 2016 18:53:26 +0000 (UTC) Cc: 22296-done@debbugs.gnu.org To: Eli Zaretskii , Drew Adams Original-X-From: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Sun Jan 03 19:53:13 2016 Return-path: Envelope-to: geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([208.118.235.17]) by plane.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1aFnmC-0001Op-Tm for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Sun, 03 Jan 2016 19:53:13 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:42544 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1aFnm9-0006RV-4U for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Sun, 03 Jan 2016 13:53:09 -0500 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::10]:39891) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1aFnm5-0006Ot-5Q for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sun, 03 Jan 2016 13:53:06 -0500 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1aFnm1-00049C-Tz for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sun, 03 Jan 2016 13:53:05 -0500 Original-Received: from debbugs.gnu.org ([208.118.235.43]:48659) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1aFnm1-000498-QG for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sun, 03 Jan 2016 13:53:01 -0500 Original-Received: from Debian-debbugs by debbugs.gnu.org with local (Exim 4.84) (envelope-from ) id 1aFnm1-0002zG-IU for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sun, 03 Jan 2016 13:53:01 -0500 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Resent-From: Drew Adams Original-Sender: "Debbugs-submit" Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Resent-Date: Sun, 03 Jan 2016 18:53:01 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 22296 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs X-GNU-PR-Keywords: Original-Received: via spool by 22296-done@debbugs.gnu.org id=D22296.145184715411447 (code D ref 22296); Sun, 03 Jan 2016 18:53:01 +0000 Original-Received: (at 22296-done) by debbugs.gnu.org; 3 Jan 2016 18:52:34 +0000 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:36879 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84) (envelope-from ) id 1aFnla-0002yZ-K0 for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Sun, 03 Jan 2016 13:52:34 -0500 Original-Received: from userp1040.oracle.com ([156.151.31.81]:17164) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84) (envelope-from ) id 1aFnlY-0002yM-Jg for 22296-done@debbugs.gnu.org; Sun, 03 Jan 2016 13:52:32 -0500 Original-Received: from userv0021.oracle.com (userv0021.oracle.com [156.151.31.71]) by userp1040.oracle.com (Sentrion-MTA-4.3.2/Sentrion-MTA-4.3.2) with ESMTP id u03IqPL1001059 (version=TLSv1 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=FAIL); Sun, 3 Jan 2016 18:52:25 GMT Original-Received: from aserv0122.oracle.com (aserv0122.oracle.com [141.146.126.236]) by userv0021.oracle.com (8.13.8/8.13.8) with ESMTP id u03IqOLm012211 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=FAIL); Sun, 3 Jan 2016 18:52:25 GMT Original-Received: from abhmp0010.oracle.com (abhmp0010.oracle.com [141.146.116.16]) by aserv0122.oracle.com (8.13.8/8.13.8) with ESMTP id u03IqO0F031123; Sun, 3 Jan 2016 18:52:24 GMT In-Reply-To: <<83vb7a8pxi.fsf@gnu.org>> X-Priority: 3 X-Mailer: Oracle Beehive Extensions for Outlook 2.0.1.9 (901082) [OL 12.0.6691.5000 (x86)] X-Source-IP: userv0021.oracle.com [156.151.31.71] X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.2.x-3.x [generic] X-Received-From: 208.118.235.43 X-BeenThere: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org List-Id: "Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.bugs:111160 Archived-At: > > Really? The fact that you (apparently) can no longer specify that > > a given command is handled by killing the region? The fact that > > there is a new possible value for the property (what is it for)? > > > > How is a user supposed to understand how to use d-s-mode if these > > things are not documented - either in a doc string or in a manual? >=20 > How did they understand this before? It was in the doc string of d-s-mode. Each of the possible property values was described. > This bug report says "please document changes to > delete-selection-mode". I have shown that what was documented before > was updated. No. Previously the doc string documented the possible values for the property. The new value is missing. (And the deprecated value was removed from the doc string of the mode command but not from the doc string of *-helper.) > You now say that its previous documentation was > insufficient, which is an entirely different issue. If you really think so, feel free to copy the info from this report to another bug report. Or just go ahead and ignore it. Your choice. I've reported it. > > And we no longer announce deprecations? Except in code comments? >=20 > Most of the deprecations are indeed never announced in NEWS, you see > them when the byte compiler emits a warning to that effect. Not a great policy, IMO. But whatever. So does the byte-compiler warn you about this deprecation? I don't think so. > > Anyway, I've reported the problems I see. Do with the information > > what you will. >=20 > I did. I see.