From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Drew Adams Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: RE: ASCII-folded search [was: Re: Upcoming loss of usability ...] Date: Sat, 27 Jun 2015 11:02:03 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <8b160d17-f79c-444a-8389-aa55645520aa@default> References: <390c25d4-2050-4131-8a38-31ae09454541@default> <83d20h6rue.fsf@gnu.org> NNTP-Posting-Host: plane.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="__1435428121829308543abhmp0011.oracle.com" X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1435428163 26803 80.91.229.3 (27 Jun 2015 18:02:43 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Sat, 27 Jun 2015 18:02:43 +0000 (UTC) Cc: emacs-devel To: bruce.connor.am@gmail.com, Eli Zaretskii Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Sat Jun 27 20:02:32 2015 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([208.118.235.17]) by plane.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1Z8uQw-0004D9-Gg for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Sat, 27 Jun 2015 20:02:30 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:36399 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1Z8uQv-0006cI-OP for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Sat, 27 Jun 2015 14:02:29 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::10]:57123) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1Z8uQg-0006cB-Iw for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sat, 27 Jun 2015 14:02:15 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1Z8uQf-0007Ne-2Y for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sat, 27 Jun 2015 14:02:14 -0400 Original-Received: from aserp1040.oracle.com ([141.146.126.69]:17851) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1Z8uQb-0007ND-5R; Sat, 27 Jun 2015 14:02:09 -0400 Original-Received: from userv0022.oracle.com (userv0022.oracle.com [156.151.31.74]) by aserp1040.oracle.com (Sentrion-MTA-4.3.2/Sentrion-MTA-4.3.2) with ESMTP id t5RI22LW028871 (version=TLSv1 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=OK); Sat, 27 Jun 2015 18:02:03 GMT Original-Received: from userv0121.oracle.com (userv0121.oracle.com [156.151.31.72]) by userv0022.oracle.com (8.13.8/8.13.8) with ESMTP id t5RI222B028548 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=FAIL); Sat, 27 Jun 2015 18:02:02 GMT Original-Received: from abhmp0011.oracle.com (abhmp0011.oracle.com [141.146.116.17]) by userv0121.oracle.com (8.13.8/8.13.8) with ESMTP id t5RI2222018128; Sat, 27 Jun 2015 18:02:02 GMT In-Reply-To: X-Priority: 3 X-Mailer: Oracle Beehive Extensions for Outlook 2.0.1.9 (901082) [OL 12.0.6691.5000 (x86)] X-Source-IP: userv0022.oracle.com [156.151.31.74] X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.4.x-2.6.x [generic] X-Received-From: 141.146.126.69 X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:187601 Archived-At: --__1435428121829308543abhmp0011.oracle.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable My bad. Apologies to Kaushal. =C2=A0 I must say that the use of HTML mail in a mailing list of mostly plain-text= messages is (IMHO) a pity and a pain. =C2=A0 In my mail client, at least, Kaushal's reply to your message shows that quo= ted bit from your message at the top level, which makes it indistinguishabl= e from the text Kaushal wrote as a reply. =C2=A0 But I now see the message displayed correctly at lists.gnu.org: http://lists.gnu.org/archive/html/emacs-devel/2015-06/msg00593.html =C2=A0 =C2=A0 Is there a special reason why you use HTML mail on this mailing list? =C2=A0 [FWIW, I use HTML mail in my work and leisure, along with everyone else I c= ommunicate with, but I don't use it on these mailing lists. I thought that = doing so was discouraged. In any case, I, for one find it a PITA to reply t= o a mix and to try to reply to an HTML msg coherently using plain text.] =C2=A0 From: Artur Malabarba [mailto:bruce.connor.am@gmail.com]=20 Sent: Saturday, June 27, 2015 9:47 AM To: Eli Zaretskii Cc: emacs-devel; Drew Adams Subject: Re: ASCII-folded search [was: Re: Upcoming loss of usability ...] =C2=A0 > > I'm guessing that the feature you are talking about is the char > > folding that Bruce/Artur installed, and *not* the suggestion by > > Kaushal to "take over the mode line" and use "a lot of space to > > verbosely display the searching options". Just to be fair, it was I (Artur) who suggested taking over the mode line (= and I've changed my mind against that now too). Kaushal's suggestion was mo= re discrete.=20 --__1435428121829308543abhmp0011.oracle.com Content-Type: text/html; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

My b= ad. Apologies to Kaushal.

 

I must sa= y that the use of HTML mail in a mailing list of mostly plain-text messages= is (IMHO) a pity and a pain.<= /o:p>

 

In my mail client, at least, Kaushal's r= eply to your message shows that quoted bit from your message at the top = level, which makes it indistinguishable from the text Kaushal wrote as = a reply.

 <= /o:p>

But I now see the message = displayed correctly at lists.gnu.org:

&nbs= p;

 =

Is there a special reason why y= ou use HTML mail on this mailing list?

 

[FWIW, I use HTML mail in my work and leisure, along with everyone else= I communicate with, but I don't use it on these mailing lists. I thought t= hat doing so was discouraged. In any case, I, for one find it a PITA to rep= ly to a mix and to try to reply to an HTML msg coherently using plain text.= ]

 

From: Artur Malabarba [m= ailto:bruce.connor.am@gmail.com]
Sent: Saturday, June 27, 2015 9= :47 AM
To: Eli Zaretskii
Cc: emacs-devel; Drew AdamsSubject: Re: ASCII-folded search [was: Re: Upcoming loss of usabili= ty ...]

 

> > I'm guessing that the feature you are talking about is= the char
> > folding that Bruce/Artur installed, and *not* the su= ggestion by
> > Kaushal to "take over the mode line" and= use "a lot of space to
> > verbosely display the searching o= ptions".

Just to be fair, it was I (Artur) who sugges= ted taking over the mode line (and I've changed my mind against that now to= o). Kaushal's suggestion was more discrete.

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