From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.io!.POSTED.blaine.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: =?utf-8?Q?Mattias_Engdeg=C3=A5rd?= Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: thunk.el: Document that thunk-force == funcall? Date: Thu, 19 Nov 2020 12:50:59 +0100 Message-ID: <8E031B6C-8BF3-48DC-B183-8FAF2D366408@acm.org> References: <871rgs3tdx.fsf@web.de> <87ima21d1k.fsf@logand.com> <87d00a1c4i.fsf@logand.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 (Mac OS X Mail 12.4 \(3445.104.17\)) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Injection-Info: ciao.gmane.io; posting-host="blaine.gmane.org:116.202.254.214"; logging-data="31533"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@ciao.gmane.io" Cc: emacs-devel@gnu.org To: Tomas Hlavaty Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Thu Nov 19 12:52:08 2020 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([209.51.188.17]) by ciao.gmane.io with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1kfiTv-000863-TH for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org; Thu, 19 Nov 2020 12:52:07 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:58808 helo=lists1p.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1kfiTu-0005Li-Ty for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org; Thu, 19 Nov 2020 06:52:06 -0500 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::10]:39432) by lists.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1kfiSz-0004dd-5m for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Thu, 19 Nov 2020 06:51:09 -0500 Original-Received: from mail1459c50.megamailservers.eu ([91.136.14.59]:36522 helo=mail267c50.megamailservers.eu) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1kfiSw-0000zx-5G for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Thu, 19 Nov 2020 06:51:08 -0500 X-Authenticated-User: mattiase@bredband.net DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/simple; d=megamailservers.eu; s=maildub; t=1605786662; bh=HSFTuMQS/DOdqvmodNPzfmI67I6BqaG+VjqUzCJ+Zg4=; h=Subject:From:In-Reply-To:Date:Cc:References:To:From; b=nw8MmypTCzrXv/YTggFme9l6GjdKMyNw/j8BhTJLQ7rrBidSlzQ1SJhHhojb1zuTu JZsw3mus938Z5gt8qGctW048AbRJSDO3CqssMMuz2S8/S7w+uPCFj/m/Oay8IGD+Em tSbtFsMa199KzPINLLcNi9GYjjaIAu9C1Uc6i5Jw= Feedback-ID: mattiase@acm.or Original-Received: from stanniol.lan (c-064ae655.032-75-73746f71.bbcust.telenor.se [85.230.74.6]) (authenticated bits=0) by mail267c50.megamailservers.eu (8.14.9/8.13.1) with ESMTP id 0AJBoxxU031720; Thu, 19 Nov 2020 11:51:01 +0000 In-Reply-To: <87d00a1c4i.fsf@logand.com> X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.3445.104.17) X-CTCH-RefID: str=0001.0A782F20.5FB65C25.0091, ss=1, re=0.000, recu=0.000, reip=0.000, cl=1, cld=1, fgs=0 X-CTCH-VOD: Unknown X-CTCH-Spam: Unknown X-CTCH-Score: 0.000 X-CTCH-Flags: 0 X-CTCH-ScoreCust: 0.000 X-CSC: 0 X-CHA: v=2.3 cv=UL+j4xXy c=1 sm=1 tr=0 a=Ni+dBsiEfW2GqKMPYZim9A==:117 a=Ni+dBsiEfW2GqKMPYZim9A==:17 a=kj9zAlcOel0A:10 a=M51BFTxLslgA:10 a=Scs8XLrEAAAA:8 a=BDqjK-eUWlts3K9jnukA:9 a=CjuIK1q_8ugA:10 a=_gUJxzYdqyMxK0ih6gMi:22 X-Origin-Country: SE Received-SPF: softfail client-ip=91.136.14.59; envelope-from=mattiase@acm.org; helo=mail267c50.megamailservers.eu X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: First seen = 2020/11/19 06:51:02 X-ACL-Warn: Detected OS = Linux 2.2.x-3.x (no timestamps) [generic] X-Spam_score_int: -11 X-Spam_score: -1.2 X-Spam_bar: - X-Spam_report: (-1.2 / 5.0 requ) BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, SPF_HELO_NONE=0.001, SPF_SOFTFAIL=0.665 autolearn=no autolearn_force=no X-Spam_action: no action X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.23 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "Emacs-devel" Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.devel:259422 Archived-At: 19 nov. 2020 kl. 00.25 skrev Tomas Hlavaty : > interesting drawback of thunk.el implementation is that thunk-delay = does > not allow that and whatever is captured stays captured even after > thunk-force. Not after byte-compilation. The interpreter is very conservative when = creating closures but the compiler makes more of an effort to capture = only variables actually used.