From: Carsten Dominik <dominik@science.uva.nl>
To: bva@alexanderonline.org
Cc: emacs-orgmode@gnu.org, Richard KLINDA <rklinda@gmail.com>
Subject: Re: Property for startup visibility?
Date: Thu, 8 May 2008 14:03:08 +0200 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <8BD9FF75-9C07-4010-9152-846E413AE729@science.uva.nl> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <0C137CFD-3F28-4771-B61A-ACD447BA543C@alexanderonline.org>
Hi Ben,
On May 7, 2008, at 8:29 PM, bva@alexanderonline.org wrote:
> Mostly I want the Short and Long Term projects visible and I'd like
> to hide the calendars. I like to keep all this in one file because
> I'm most familiar with simple emacs searching, and I'm not yet good
> at org-mode/agenda searches (or global TODO lists, or tag matching,
> or all that)
I am starting to like the idea.
> Since I don't work on "Solve World Hunger" everyday, I find it a
> distraction (as so many people do) to look at the TODOs under that
> project, so a simple TODO tree search hasn't helped me much. I know
> there is more in org-mode that would fix this, but one of the big
> pleasures of org-mode is how easy (easy, EASY!) it is to get started
> on SOMETHING productive, without having to invest a huge shift in my
> thinking. (I am working on that shift in thinking, but it has been
> slow to take hold. Time to re-read the Allen book; maybe this time
> I'll excise some more personal disorganizing demons)
>
> So I'd suggest that the 'VISIBILITY' property does get added. I'd
> even suggest adding another stop on the org-mode-tab-cycle chain
> (FOLDED VISIBILITY-PROPERTY CHILDREN SUBTREE).
Definitely not. Visibility cycling works because there is a clear
sequence in it from showing little to showing everything. Such an
extra stop would kill intuition, I believe. Instead, I could make a
command, say `C-u C-u TAB' to switch back the entire buffer to the
startup visibility. And by the way, during C-c C-c on an option, org-
mode-hook is not run again.
> I can even see feature-creep with this, as someone may want org-mode
> to update the VISIBILITY property automatically on killing/saving
> the buffer, so when the file is revisited, any hand-tuned folding is
> recreated.
That has been requested before, but storing the visibility permanently
in properties sound like overkill to me. So no for now.
> Thought-experiment: Should the VISIBILITY property be automatically
> inherited?
I dont think so. Better to make possible values for the visibility
that affect the entire tree below. For example:
folded
children (like the local "children" state)
content (like the global "content" state, but local tree only
all
- Carsten
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2008-05-08 12:03 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 7+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2008-05-07 18:29 Property for startup visibility? bva
2008-05-08 12:03 ` Carsten Dominik [this message]
2008-05-09 14:06 ` Carsten Dominik
2008-05-09 14:58 ` bva
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2008-05-06 19:24 Richard KLINDA
2008-05-07 1:53 ` Peter Jones
2008-05-07 11:39 ` Richard KLINDA
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