From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: "Drew Adams" Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: RE: Efforts to attract more users? Date: Fri, 9 Jul 2010 10:29:00 -0700 Message-ID: <8B0A9975872A4658988961645E6AC4AB@us.oracle.com> References: NNTP-Posting-Host: lo.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Trace: dough.gmane.org 1278696577 28874 80.91.229.12 (9 Jul 2010 17:29:37 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@dough.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Fri, 9 Jul 2010 17:29:37 +0000 (UTC) Cc: 'Juanma Barranquero' , emacs-devel@gnu.org To: "'Lennart Borgman'" , "'Dan Nicolaescu'" Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Fri Jul 09 19:29:35 2010 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([199.232.76.165]) by lo.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1OXHOI-0003Mx-Rb for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Fri, 09 Jul 2010 19:29:35 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:49036 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1OXHOH-00062b-F6 for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Fri, 09 Jul 2010 13:29:33 -0400 Original-Received: from [140.186.70.92] (port=39405 helo=eggs.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1OXHO9-00062Q-IZ for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Fri, 09 Jul 2010 13:29:26 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1OXHO8-0007zd-5v for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Fri, 09 Jul 2010 13:29:25 -0400 Original-Received: from rcsinet10.oracle.com ([148.87.113.121]:22210) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1OXHO8-0007yN-12; Fri, 09 Jul 2010 13:29:24 -0400 Original-Received: from acsinet15.oracle.com (acsinet15.oracle.com [141.146.126.227]) by rcsinet10.oracle.com (Switch-3.4.2/Switch-3.4.2) with ESMTP id o69HTIIa018397 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=OK); Fri, 9 Jul 2010 17:29:19 GMT Original-Received: from acsmt354.oracle.com (acsmt354.oracle.com [141.146.40.154]) by acsinet15.oracle.com (Switch-3.4.2/Switch-3.4.1) with ESMTP id o692ADT8008426; Fri, 9 Jul 2010 17:29:17 GMT Original-Received: from abhmt019.oracle.com by acsmt354.oracle.com with ESMTP id 413574281278696542; Fri, 09 Jul 2010 10:29:02 -0700 Original-Received: from dradamslap1 (/10.175.236.134) by default (Oracle Beehive Gateway v4.0) with ESMTP ; Fri, 09 Jul 2010 10:29:02 -0700 X-Mailer: Microsoft Office Outlook 11 In-Reply-To: Thread-Index: AcsfiVNgKD38kSXwQ/qFclHHQkXMdgAAKzzQ X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.5931 X-Source-IP: acsmt354.oracle.com [141.146.40.154] X-Auth-Type: Internal IP X-CT-RefId: str=0001.0A090209.4C375C6D.0148:SCFMA4539814,ss=1,fgs=0 X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.6 (newer, 3) X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:126962 Archived-At: So now it seems that this thread has been diverted to a discussion about merging Lennart's emacsclient changes, who should do that, why... Next you'll be discussing each of those changes individually. Then... Why is it so difficult to _start a new thread_ when you change the subject? Here, FWIW, was the place where you turned off the road: >> And the reason for it is IMO >> partly that emacs client does not start Emacs by default. (It does in >> the patched version of Emacs+EmacsW32 however.) > > You could send patches for the standard Emacs... > Hey! Didn't we have this conversation (a few times) before? :-) Some discussion of emacsclient problems and improvements _might_ be appropriate for this thread, provided it remains tied to a discussion about attracting more users. But when you take a detour to pursue emacsclient implementation and merge details, you've left the road, probably forever. At best, you're on a side road. At worst, you're off into the swamp.