From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: "Drew Adams" Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.bugs Subject: bug#13502: 24.3.50; bad formatting in recent NEWS? Date: Sat, 19 Jan 2013 20:37:01 -0800 Message-ID: <89EBFDC27F2F4A4AA15AA324802C1347@us.oracle.com> References: <87obgk8tip.fsf@gnu.org> NNTP-Posting-Host: plane.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1358656688 25712 80.91.229.3 (20 Jan 2013 04:38:08 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Sun, 20 Jan 2013 04:38:08 +0000 (UTC) Cc: 13502-done@debbugs.gnu.org To: "'Chong Yidong'" Original-X-From: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Sun Jan 20 05:38:27 2013 Return-path: Envelope-to: geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([208.118.235.17]) by plane.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1Twmfq-0007jo-Uq for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Sun, 20 Jan 2013 05:38:27 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:56011 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1TwmfZ-0007cD-W5 for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Sat, 19 Jan 2013 23:38:09 -0500 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([208.118.235.92]:59405) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1TwmfX-0007c7-CD for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sat, 19 Jan 2013 23:38:08 -0500 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1TwmfW-0002jg-9Y for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sat, 19 Jan 2013 23:38:07 -0500 Original-Received: from debbugs.gnu.org ([140.186.70.43]:35498) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1TwmfW-0002jc-6A for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sat, 19 Jan 2013 23:38:06 -0500 Original-Received: from Debian-debbugs by debbugs.gnu.org with local (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1TwmgP-0004C7-Ls for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sat, 19 Jan 2013 23:39:01 -0500 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Resent-From: "Drew Adams" Original-Sender: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Resent-Date: Sun, 20 Jan 2013 04:39:01 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 13502 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs X-GNU-PR-Keywords: Original-Received: via spool by 13502-done@debbugs.gnu.org id=D13502.135865668816059 (code D ref 13502); Sun, 20 Jan 2013 04:39:01 +0000 Original-Received: (at 13502-done) by debbugs.gnu.org; 20 Jan 2013 04:38:08 +0000 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:40962 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1TwmfX-0004Ay-TR for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Sat, 19 Jan 2013 23:38:08 -0500 Original-Received: from userp1040.oracle.com ([156.151.31.81]:28468) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1TwmfW-0004Aq-E3 for 13502-done@debbugs.gnu.org; Sat, 19 Jan 2013 23:38:07 -0500 Original-Received: from ucsinet22.oracle.com (ucsinet22.oracle.com [156.151.31.94]) by userp1040.oracle.com (Sentrion-MTA-4.2.2/Sentrion-MTA-4.2.2) with ESMTP id r0K4b9X5028965 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=OK); Sun, 20 Jan 2013 04:37:09 GMT Original-Received: from acsmt357.oracle.com (acsmt357.oracle.com [141.146.40.157]) by ucsinet22.oracle.com (8.14.4+Sun/8.14.4) with ESMTP id r0K4b8Rw004386 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO); Sun, 20 Jan 2013 04:37:09 GMT Original-Received: from abhmt111.oracle.com (abhmt111.oracle.com [141.146.116.63]) by acsmt357.oracle.com (8.12.11.20060308/8.12.11) with ESMTP id r0K4b82D008107; Sat, 19 Jan 2013 22:37:08 -0600 Original-Received: from dradamslap1 (/71.202.147.44) by default (Oracle Beehive Gateway v4.0) with ESMTP ; Sat, 19 Jan 2013 20:37:08 -0800 X-Mailer: Microsoft Office Outlook 11 In-Reply-To: <87obgk8tip.fsf@gnu.org> Thread-Index: Ac32t8ngRmMHh2L3S2iL09wrd/9i9AACsdzg X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.6157 X-Source-IP: ucsinet22.oracle.com [156.151.31.94] X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.13 Precedence: list X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.6.x X-Received-From: 140.186.70.43 X-BeenThere: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org List-Id: "Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.bugs:70079 Archived-At: > > The longest is this one (87 chars): > > > > machine smtp.whatever.foo port 25 key "~/.my_smtp_tls.key" cert > > "~/.my_smtp_tls.cert" > > It should be incredibly obvious why this line is an OK exception. In spite of your hyperbole ("incredibly obvious", indeed), there is no need for this line to be an exception. It is too long only because you have used fictitious names that are too long. Those names do not explain anything, in any case, and they need not be that long. In addition, the text is incorrect. It is "incredibly obvious" that it is NOT true that "you need to put" that line "in your ~/authinfo file instead." It is no doubt 100% wrong that you should use that literal text. What should be said is something like this: If you had that set then you need to put machine MACHINE port PORT key KEYFILE cert CERTFILE where MACHINE is..., PORT is..., KEYFILE is..., and CERTFILE is.... [Specification still missing.] For example, MACHINE could be smtp.whatever.foo, PORT could be 25, KEYFILE could be "~/.my_smtp_tls.key", and CERTFILE could be "~/.my_smtp_tls.cert". No long lines needed, and incorrect and misleading statement removed. > As for any other lines, they will be cleaned up when it comes time to > edit the NEWS file in preparation for the 24.4 pretest. No > point filing a bug about this kind of thing. Quite a pretension. What happened to such cleanup during the 24.3 pretest? Or 24.2? Same problems - same long lines even; no such cleanup. > Closing. Improvident.