From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: "Drew Adams" Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: RE: Virtual Info keyword finder Date: Sat, 11 Jul 2009 16:14:07 -0700 Message-ID: <8947BFC10154437C9F8CE366F822E6E1@us.oracle.com> References: <87ljmv6mnz.fsf@mail.jurta.org> NNTP-Posting-Host: lo.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1247354069 3216 80.91.229.12 (11 Jul 2009 23:14:29 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Sat, 11 Jul 2009 23:14:29 +0000 (UTC) To: "'Juri Linkov'" , Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Sun Jul 12 01:14:22 2009 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([199.232.76.165]) by lo.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.50) id 1MPllu-00088y-5T for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Sun, 12 Jul 2009 01:14:22 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:42025 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1MPllt-00055X-Ac for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Sat, 11 Jul 2009 19:14:21 -0400 Original-Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1MPlln-00052P-Qr for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sat, 11 Jul 2009 19:14:15 -0400 Original-Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1MPlli-0004wo-Vx for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sat, 11 Jul 2009 19:14:15 -0400 Original-Received: from [199.232.76.173] (port=50442 helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1MPlli-0004wX-Pv for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sat, 11 Jul 2009 19:14:10 -0400 Original-Received: from acsinet12.oracle.com ([141.146.126.234]:53673) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS-1.0:DHE_RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA1:32) (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1MPlli-0006le-Cw for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sat, 11 Jul 2009 19:14:10 -0400 Original-Received: from rgminet15.oracle.com (rcsinet15.oracle.com [148.87.113.117]) by acsinet12.oracle.com (Switch-3.3.1/Switch-3.3.1) with ESMTP id n6BNDsfX000420 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=OK); Sat, 11 Jul 2009 23:13:55 GMT Original-Received: from abhmt008.oracle.com (abhmt008.oracle.com [141.146.116.17]) by rgminet15.oracle.com (Switch-3.3.1/Switch-3.3.1) with ESMTP id n6BNED4p011795; Sat, 11 Jul 2009 23:14:13 GMT Original-Received: from dradamslap1 (/24.5.190.74) by default (Oracle Beehive Gateway v4.0) with ESMTP ; Sat, 11 Jul 2009 16:14:04 -0700 X-Mailer: Microsoft Office Outlook 11 In-Reply-To: <87ljmv6mnz.fsf@mail.jurta.org> Thread-Index: AcoCaM/SnPW7jxfURRydMgv/rYJlJwACJ7fQ X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.5579 X-Source-IP: abhmt008.oracle.com [141.146.116.17] X-Auth-Type: Internal IP X-CT-RefId: str=0001.0A010201.4A591CBD.003B:SCFSTAT5015188,ss=1,fgs=0 X-detected-operating-system: by monty-python.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.6 (newer, 1) X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:112359 Archived-At: > I'd like to close the following TODO item from etc/TODO: > > ** Replace finder.el with something that generates an Info file > which gives the same information through a menu structure. > > It was easily implementable with a small patch using the virtual > Info manual architecture. The Top node contains a menu with links > to keyword nodes, and each keyword node contains a menu with links > to nodes with a commentary section: (Caveat: I didn't try it; I just glanced at it.) In spite of that TODO entry, can we please call this something else, and keep finder.el as it is? Info mode is not as simple as Finder mode - it has extra features and extra limitations, which means it interacts differently from Finder with other (minor) modes that users might use at the same time. For example, I use Finder mode in combination with Linkd minor mode. http://www.emacswiki.org/emacs/LinkdMode Linkd has its own kind of hypertext links. In Finder, these work within and between (Finder) Commentary buffers. Without Finder, the same Linkd links still work within and between sections of files (including Commentary sections). Coupling Finder with Info in the way you propose makes it follow Info's limitations, from syntax to behavior, including UI. I'm not against an Info extension to give it Finder-like functionality - that would be good. But I don't want to see plain old, simple Finder get lost in the bargain. It is a useful tool in its own right.