From: Xah <xahlee@gmail.com>
To: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org
Subject: Re: Emacs usability (was: Can anybody tell me how to send HTML-format mail in gnus)
Date: Tue, 12 Aug 2008 07:55:04 -0700 (PDT) [thread overview]
Message-ID: <88d93b45-3a97-4f46-bbfd-a4546b6c9359@1g2000pre.googlegroups.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: bca6240d-d035-431e-8eac-ab29a84ccb24@n38g2000prl.googlegroups.com
On Aug 12, 12:37 am, Xah <xah...@gmail.com> wrote:
> For example, renowned computer scientist Edsger has this to say:
>
> ... what society overwhelmingly asks for is snake oil. Of course, the
> snake oil has the most impressive names —otherwise you would be
> selling nothing— like “Structured Analysis and Design”, “Software
> Engineering”, “Maturity Models”, “Management Information Systems”,
> “Integrated Project Support Environments” “Object Orientation” and
> “Business Process Re-engineering” (the latter three being known as
> IPSE, OO and BPR, respectively).” — Edsger W Dijkstra↗ (1930-2002), in
> EWD 1175: The strengths of the academic enterprise↗.
Actually, the quote i meant to quote is this one:
“The required techniques of effective reasoning are pretty formal, but
as long as programming is done by people that don't master them, the
software crisis will remain with us and will be considered an
incurable disease. And you know what incurable diseases do: they
invite the quacks and charlatans in, who in this case take the form of
Software Engineering gurus.” —attributed to Edsger Dijkstra 1930-2002.
Xah
∑ http://xahlee.org/
☄
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Thread overview: 69+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2008-08-05 16:44 Can anybody tell me how to send HTML-format mail in gnus M.T
2008-08-06 19:17 ` Evans Winner
2008-08-06 20:37 ` M.T
2008-08-07 5:09 ` Tim X
2008-08-07 14:34 ` Xah
2008-08-07 15:17 ` Cor Gest
2008-08-07 16:50 ` Xah
2008-08-07 17:14 ` M.T
2008-08-07 18:32 ` Xah
2008-08-07 18:07 ` Evans Winner
2008-08-08 12:20 ` Xah
2008-08-08 15:15 ` Ted Zlatanov
2008-08-08 15:39 ` Xah
2008-08-08 19:00 ` Ted Zlatanov
2008-08-09 19:18 ` Xah
2008-08-11 14:52 ` Ted Zlatanov
2008-08-11 15:49 ` Lennart Borgman (gmail)
2008-08-11 19:09 ` Eli Zaretskii
2008-08-11 19:27 ` Alan Mackenzie
2008-08-11 19:50 ` Eli Zaretskii
2008-08-11 19:31 ` Lennart Borgman (gmail)
2008-08-11 19:52 ` Eli Zaretskii
2008-08-11 20:14 ` Lennart Borgman (gmail)
2008-08-12 19:12 ` Eli Zaretskii
2008-08-12 19:22 ` Lennart Borgman (gmail)
2008-08-12 19:27 ` Alan Mackenzie
2008-08-11 20:20 ` Nikolaj Schumacher
[not found] ` <mailman.16396.1218482758.18990.help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org>
2008-08-11 20:57 ` Emacs usability (was: Can anybody tell me how to send HTML-format mail in gnus) Ted Zlatanov
2008-08-11 22:14 ` Emacs usability Lennart Borgman (gmail)
2008-08-12 7:37 ` Emacs usability (was: Can anybody tell me how to send HTML-format mail in gnus) Xah
2008-08-12 14:14 ` Emacs usability Ted Zlatanov
2008-08-12 14:48 ` Xah
2008-08-12 14:55 ` Xah [this message]
2008-08-12 18:29 ` Emacs usability (was: Can anybody tell me how to send HTML-format mail in gnus) Eli Zaretskii
[not found] ` <mailman.16413.1218492872.18990.help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org>
2008-08-12 14:17 ` Emacs usability Ted Zlatanov
2008-08-11 16:03 ` Can anybody tell me how to send HTML-format mail in gnus Xah
[not found] ` <mailman.16376.1218469770.18990.help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org>
2008-08-11 16:32 ` Ted Zlatanov
2008-08-11 16:52 ` Lennart Borgman (gmail)
2008-08-08 15:42 ` Cor Gest
2008-08-07 18:12 ` Cor Gest
2008-08-08 4:59 ` Sivaram Neelakantan
2008-08-08 5:54 ` Tim X
2008-08-08 13:11 ` Xah
2008-08-08 14:56 ` Phil Carmody
2008-08-08 15:42 ` Xah
2008-08-08 17:06 ` Phil Carmody
2008-08-08 17:22 ` Xah
2008-08-08 18:24 ` Cor Gest
2008-08-09 19:41 ` Xah
2008-08-09 21:03 ` Cor Gest
2008-08-09 22:23 ` Xah
2008-08-11 5:03 ` Charles philip Chan
[not found] ` <mailman.16348.1218431146.18990.help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org>
2008-08-11 5:44 ` Xah
2008-08-11 7:30 ` Charles philip Chan
[not found] ` <mailman.16351.1218439913.18990.help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org>
2008-08-11 8:16 ` Xah
2008-08-08 22:15 ` Phil Carmody
2008-08-09 10:16 ` Xah
2008-08-09 13:19 ` Sean Sieger
[not found] ` <mailman.16182.1218288014.18990.help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org>
2008-08-09 14:19 ` Xah
2008-08-10 9:52 ` Phil Carmody
2008-08-10 17:28 ` Xah
2008-08-08 15:19 ` Tim X
2008-08-08 17:14 ` Xah
2008-08-09 9:55 ` Tim X
[not found] ` <mailman.16065.1218171579.18990.help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org>
2008-08-08 12:35 ` Xah
2008-08-09 5:54 ` qingant
2008-08-09 8:13 ` Phil Carmody
2008-08-09 14:34 ` Alan Mackenzie
2008-08-06 22:21 ` Jashy
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