From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!.POSTED!not-for-mail From: Van L Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: EMACS=t Joy and Happiness Date: Sat, 26 May 2018 10:17:02 +1000 Message-ID: <8897E590-091D-4822-A3E8-9D1889E16995@scratch.space> References: <87tvqw4w8s.fsf@russet.org.uk> <6443412a-5803-d9c0-1ef3-ece7f49c43e1@cs.ucla.edu> NNTP-Posting-Host: blaine.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 (Mac OS X Mail 9.3 \(3124\)) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Trace: blaine.gmane.org 1527293717 8024 195.159.176.226 (26 May 2018 00:15:17 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@blaine.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Sat, 26 May 2018 00:15:17 +0000 (UTC) Cc: Emacs-Devel devel To: Paul Eggert Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Sat May 26 02:15:13 2018 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([208.118.235.17]) by blaine.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1fMMrY-0001zb-09 for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Sat, 26 May 2018 02:15:12 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:47189 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1fMMtd-0002zZ-FL for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Fri, 25 May 2018 20:17:21 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::10]:43452) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1fMMtV-0002zQ-N3 for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Fri, 25 May 2018 20:17:14 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1fMMtS-0006dT-4z for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Fri, 25 May 2018 20:17:13 -0400 Original-Received: from relay10.mail.gandi.net ([217.70.178.230]:54933) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.0:DHE_RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA1:32) (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1fMMtR-0006bA-Vr for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Fri, 25 May 2018 20:17:10 -0400 Original-Received: from epi.local (123-243-244-176.tpgi.com.au [123.243.244.176]) (Authenticated sender: van@scratch.space) by relay10.mail.gandi.net (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id E2CDD240003; Sat, 26 May 2018 02:17:06 +0200 (CEST) In-Reply-To: X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.3124) X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.2.x-3.x [generic] [fuzzy] X-Received-From: 217.70.178.230 X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.21 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "Emacs-devel" Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:225737 Archived-At: > the operations staff of the School of Engineering, and they're busy = people who do not report to me. There are new tricks at Digital Ocean, Google and what RHEL learns from = their CoreOS catch. My point is Enterprise RHEL will have to upgrade constantly, report a = breach within 72-hours or pay 4% of revenue. > With all this in mind you might want to rethink your comments that = among other things seem to imply that the staff at UCLA consists of = "lazy privileged people=E2=80=9D. You misunderstand. I was upset by the idea of paying more to not upgrade.