From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Xah Lee Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.help Subject: Re: How to get rid of *GNU Emacs* buffer on start-up? Date: Tue, 23 Sep 2008 19:08:56 -0700 (PDT) Organization: http://groups.google.com Message-ID: <8896a071-1a1d-4185-b723-b32e5e1aaaf3@b30g2000prf.googlegroups.com> References: <873ajzwoqu.fsf@kobe.laptop> <823901dd-c54c-4e3b-b6ad-512d52724a46@z11g2000prl.googlegroups.com> <15b2444a-fece-4781-b57b-5e738ed1d202@a29g2000pra.googlegroups.com> <26f9d70d-4131-42f1-a368-42aa0d28a940@b30g2000prf.googlegroups.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: lo.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1222224086 12505 80.91.229.12 (24 Sep 2008 02:41:26 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Wed, 24 Sep 2008 02:41:26 +0000 (UTC) To: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Original-X-From: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Wed Sep 24 04:42:23 2008 Return-path: Envelope-to: geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([199.232.76.165]) by lo.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.50) id 1KiKKd-0001hU-20 for geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Wed, 24 Sep 2008 04:42:23 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:44643 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1KiKJb-0003wA-7V for geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Tue, 23 Sep 2008 22:41:19 -0400 Original-Path: news.stanford.edu!newsfeed.stanford.edu!postnews.google.com!b30g2000prf.googlegroups.com!not-for-mail Original-Newsgroups: gnu.emacs.help Original-Lines: 38 Original-NNTP-Posting-Host: 24.6.185.159 Original-X-Trace: posting.google.com 1222222136 30921 127.0.0.1 (24 Sep 2008 02:08:56 GMT) Original-X-Complaints-To: groups-abuse@google.com Original-NNTP-Posting-Date: Wed, 24 Sep 2008 02:08:56 +0000 (UTC) Complaints-To: groups-abuse@google.com Injection-Info: b30g2000prf.googlegroups.com; posting-host=24.6.185.159; posting-account=qPxGtQkAAADb6PWdLGiWVucht1ZDR6fn User-Agent: G2/1.0 X-HTTP-UserAgent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; U; PPC Mac OS X 10_4_11; en) AppleWebKit/525.18 (KHTML, like Gecko) Version/3.1.2 Safari/525.22, gzip(gfe), gzip(gfe) Original-Xref: news.stanford.edu gnu.emacs.help:162637 X-BeenThere: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Users list for the GNU Emacs text editor List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Original-Sender: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Errors-To: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.help:57978 Archived-At: On Sep 23, 12:05 pm, Nikolaj Schumacher wrote: > XahLee wrote: > > Yes. Though that doesn't constitute a good argument against Untitled > > for replacement of *scratch*. > > Of course not. I never mentioned scratch. I just said that this can't > be the solution. (Why did you bring it up?) I brought it up because in this sub thread, it is one of Alan's point against my criticism about scratch, that emacs must have something open. I said no, then you added more comments (quote: =E2=80=9CCorrect. ... However ...=E2=80=9D), then i gave more detail about the whole situation. I mentioned that this does not constitute a reason against my comments of *scratch* because that's Alan's original point, and your addition can be construed to support his point. As you know, newsgroup is a pretty much a free-for-all ground for pissing fight among tech geekers. I'm trying to defend my turf! If everyone is reasonable here, i might be too. If pissing fight and aggressive argumentation is what i see, i try to be compatible. > > However, as far as my experience goes, apps that require you to have a > > window present is pretty much gone these days. Off hand i cant think > > of a app now in Mac that requires you having at least one window > > present. > > From the top of my head, System Preferences, Software Update, iPhoto or > Photo Booth. I think it's generally a reasonable behavior for all apps > that don't display (multiple) documents. I think some 3rd party apps > are inappropriately overusing this behavior. good points. Xah =E2=88=91 http://xahlee.org/ =E2=98=84