From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!.POSTED!not-for-mail From: Paul Eggert Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: sudo:: method in tramp possible security issue Date: Tue, 20 Nov 2018 13:25:47 -0800 Organization: UCLA Computer Science Department Message-ID: <888b347f-80f3-dbc2-9e88-74be3375b599@cs.ucla.edu> References: <87ftvwdcdw.fsf@gmx.de> <87bm6kdb68.fsf@gmx.de> <87bm6kyxc3.fsf@gmx.de> <87k1l83yd3.fsf@gmx.de> <87o9ajvost.fsf@gmx.de> <87198cbf-4e47-b094-8a06-7406114e86db@cs.ucla.edu> NNTP-Posting-Host: blaine.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Trace: blaine.gmane.org 1542749106 8002 195.159.176.226 (20 Nov 2018 21:25:06 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@blaine.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Tue, 20 Nov 2018 21:25:06 +0000 (UTC) User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:60.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/60.3.0 Cc: Eli Zaretskii , Michael Albinus , =?UTF-8?B?Sm/Do28gVMOhdm9yYQ==?= , emacs-devel To: Stefan Monnier Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Tue Nov 20 22:25:02 2018 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([208.118.235.17]) by blaine.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1gPDW1-0001ud-MS for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Tue, 20 Nov 2018 22:25:01 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:35990 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1gPDY7-0007zB-P1 for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Tue, 20 Nov 2018 16:27:11 -0500 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::10]:56663) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1gPDWy-0007z5-GH for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Tue, 20 Nov 2018 16:26:01 -0500 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1gPDWx-0004LZ-Ow for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Tue, 20 Nov 2018 16:26:00 -0500 Original-Received: from zimbra.cs.ucla.edu ([131.179.128.68]:44322) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.0:DHE_RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA1:32) (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1gPDWq-00044n-2G; Tue, 20 Nov 2018 16:25:52 -0500 Original-Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by zimbra.cs.ucla.edu (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1967E160195; Tue, 20 Nov 2018 13:25:49 -0800 (PST) Original-Received: from zimbra.cs.ucla.edu ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (zimbra.cs.ucla.edu [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10032) with ESMTP id FxrfrmKGwCYV; Tue, 20 Nov 2018 13:25:48 -0800 (PST) Original-Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by zimbra.cs.ucla.edu (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5D7A9160196; Tue, 20 Nov 2018 13:25:48 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at zimbra.cs.ucla.edu Original-Received: from zimbra.cs.ucla.edu ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (zimbra.cs.ucla.edu [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10026) with ESMTP id 0HOlhbJ5xL7P; Tue, 20 Nov 2018 13:25:48 -0800 (PST) Original-Received: from Penguin.CS.UCLA.EDU (Penguin.CS.UCLA.EDU [131.179.64.200]) by zimbra.cs.ucla.edu (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 41773160195; Tue, 20 Nov 2018 13:25:48 -0800 (PST) Openpgp: preference=signencrypt Autocrypt: addr=eggert@cs.ucla.edu; prefer-encrypt=mutual; keydata= xsFNBEyAcmQBEADAAyH2xoTu7ppG5D3a8FMZEon74dCvc4+q1XA2J2tBy2pwaTqfhpxxdGA9 Jj50UJ3PD4bSUEgN8tLZ0san47l5XTAFLi2456ciSl5m8sKaHlGdt9XmAAtmXqeZVIYX/UFS 96fDzf4xhEmm/y7LbYEPQdUdxu47xA5KhTYp5bltF3WYDz1Ygd7gx07Auwp7iw7eNvnoDTAl KAl8KYDZzbDNCQGEbpY3efZIvPdeI+FWQN4W+kghy+P6au6PrIIhYraeua7XDdb2LS1en3Ss mE3QjqfRqI/A2ue8JMwsvXe/WK38Ezs6x74iTaqI3AFH6ilAhDqpMnd/msSESNFt76DiO1ZK QMr9amVPknjfPmJISqdhgB1DlEdw34sROf6V8mZw0xfqT6PKE46LcFefzs0kbg4GORf8vjG2 Sf1tk5eU8MBiyN/bZ03bKNjNYMpODDQQwuP84kYLkX2wBxxMAhBxwbDVZudzxDZJ1C2VXujC OJVxq2kljBM9ETYuUGqd75AW2LXrLw6+MuIsHFAYAgRr7+KcwDgBAfwhPBYX34nSSiHlmLC+ KaHLeCLF5ZI2vKm3HEeCTtlOg7xZEONgwzL+fdKo+D6SoC8RRxJKs8a3sVfI4t6CnrQzvJbB n6gxdgCu5i29J1QCYrCYvql2UyFPAK+do99/1jOXT4m2836j1wARAQABzSBQYXVsIEVnZ2Vy dCA8ZWdnZXJ0QGNzLnVjbGEuZWR1PsLBfgQTAQIAKAUCTIByZAIbAwUJEswDAAYLCQgHAwIG FQgCCQoLBBYCAwECH In-Reply-To: Content-Language: en-US X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 3.x X-Received-From: 131.179.128.68 X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.21 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "Emacs-devel" Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:231259 Archived-At: On 11/20/18 1:18 PM, Stefan Monnier wrote: > Tramp is not magical: it can do no more nor less than what an attacker > could do. Sure, if the attacker has control over my keyboard, or over my display, or over the Lisp code that I load and execute. That being said, Tramp does make attacks easier, so it has been an easy call for me to disable it.