From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: main.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Jim Ottaway Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.help Subject: Re: C-f, C-b, C-n and C-p or right, left, down, up? Date: Wed, 01 Oct 2003 13:36:46 +0100 Sender: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Message-ID: <87zngldti9.fsf@lse.ac.uk> References: <1c58a7c3.0310010003.78c0fa00@posting.google.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: deer.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Trace: sea.gmane.org 1065061084 15668 80.91.224.253 (2 Oct 2003 02:18:04 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@sea.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Thu, 2 Oct 2003 02:18:04 +0000 (UTC) Original-X-From: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Thu Oct 02 04:18:00 2003 Return-path: Original-Received: from monty-python.gnu.org ([199.232.76.173]) by deer.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 3.35 #1 (Debian)) id 1A4t2W-0001TH-00 for ; Thu, 02 Oct 2003 04:18:00 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.24) id 1A4szj-0008Jk-BG for geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Wed, 01 Oct 2003 22:15:07 -0400 Original-Received: from list by monty-python.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.24) id 1A4smo-0004wQ-Tw for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Wed, 01 Oct 2003 22:01:46 -0400 Original-Received: from mail by monty-python.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.24) id 1A4nj7-0000GD-M7 for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Wed, 01 Oct 2003 16:38:08 -0400 Original-Received: from [212.74.114.37] (helo=mk-smarthost-1.mail.uk.tiscali.com) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (TLSv1:DES-CBC3-SHA:168) (Exim 4.24) id 1A4gLD-0003Yn-Qn for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Wed, 01 Oct 2003 08:44:27 -0400 Original-Received: from [80.225.213.26] (helo=runcible) by mk-smarthost-1.mail.uk.tiscali.com with esmtp (Exim 4.20) id 1A4gLA-000COH-S8 for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Wed, 01 Oct 2003 13:44:25 +0100 Original-Received: from jeho by runcible with local (Exim 3.35 #1 (Debian)) id 1A4gDm-00006w-00 for ; Wed, 01 Oct 2003 13:36:46 +0100 Original-To: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org In-Reply-To: <1c58a7c3.0310010003.78c0fa00@posting.google.com> (Barman Brakjoller's message of "1 Oct 2003 01:03:37 -0700") User-Agent: Gnus/5.090024 (Oort Gnus v0.24) Emacs/21.2 (gnu/linux) X-BeenThere: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.2 Precedence: list List-Id: Users list for the GNU Emacs text editor List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: main.gmane.org gmane.emacs.help:12937 X-Report-Spam: http://spam.gmane.org/gmane.emacs.help:12937 >>>>> Barman Brakjoller writes: > From the Emacs tutorial (C-h t): > "You can also move the cursor with the arrow keys, if your terminal > has > arrow keys. We recommend learning C-b, C-f, C-n and C-p for three > reasons. First, they work on all kinds of terminals. Second, once > you gain practice at using Emacs, you will find that typing these > Control > characters is faster than typing the arrow keys (because you do not > have to move your hands away from touch-typing position). Third, > once > you form the habit of using these Control character commands, you can > easily learn to use other advanced cursor motion commands as well." > Is it worth it? I'm using Emacs on w32 and Linux and are quite happy > with my arrow keys, but the argument above about not having to move > away from the main part of the keyboard sounds logical. > I would like to know about you other guys and gals experiences. After using the cursor control keys for a while, I realised that it would be better to use the default control keys, so I bound all the cursor keys to produce an annoying error message. I managed to train myself to use the control keys in this way, and I still use them now, several years later; they are *much* more efficient. Regards, Jim Ottaway