From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: main.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Alex Schroeder Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: External programs and resources Date: Sat, 04 Sep 2004 14:08:27 +0200 Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Message-ID: <87zn46s0ck.fsf@emacswiki.org> References: <002a01c49072$0ca8b130$0200a8c0@sedrcw11488> <001a01c49144$ed587ee0$0200a8c0@sedrcw11488> NNTP-Posting-Host: deer.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Trace: sea.gmane.org 1094299819 5603 80.91.224.253 (4 Sep 2004 12:10:19 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@sea.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Sat, 4 Sep 2004 12:10:19 +0000 (UTC) Cc: Stefan Monnier , Emacs Devel Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Sat Sep 04 14:10:04 2004 Return-path: Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([199.232.76.165]) by deer.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 3.35 #1 (Debian)) id 1C3ZMn-0006kD-00 for ; Sat, 04 Sep 2004 14:10:02 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.33) id 1C3ZRk-0000UQ-TG for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Sat, 04 Sep 2004 08:15:08 -0400 Original-Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.33) id 1C3ZQl-0000NB-Qn for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sat, 04 Sep 2004 08:14:07 -0400 Original-Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.33) id 1C3ZQW-0000KF-Km for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sat, 04 Sep 2004 08:14:05 -0400 Original-Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.33) id 1C3ZQW-0000JV-Cp for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sat, 04 Sep 2004 08:13:52 -0400 Original-Received: from [62.2.95.247] (helo=smtp.hispeed.ch) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (TLSv1:DES-CBC3-SHA:168) (Exim 4.34) id 1C3ZLM-0003eU-IF for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sat, 04 Sep 2004 08:08:34 -0400 Original-Received: from confusibombus (80-218-4-216.dclient.hispeed.ch [80.218.4.216]) by smtp.hispeed.ch (8.12.6/8.12.6/tornado-1.0) with ESMTP id i84C8QXM028117 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=RC4-SHA bits=128 verify=NO); Sat, 4 Sep 2004 14:08:27 +0200 Original-Received: from alex by confusibombus with local (Exim 4.34) id 1C3ZLH-0000so-N4; Sat, 04 Sep 2004 14:08:27 +0200 Original-To: "Lennart Borgman" Face: iVBORw0KGgoAAAANSUhEUgAAADAAAAAwCAYAAABXAvmHAAACkElEQVR42s1a0bLsIAgzjv// y7kPd9pVKxKVdk6fzux2C4EAwR6QZBpcQEopIf3Fq3a52Lfh0Mjjk99zcWYBwA2ihEen9jVxfAf/ u0+Y2HQwNoVw4Dx34trRV6NSjiLPmfPt77jwiBxB/3PnZ3B2AGxzHnGu0wcBwAIAyQwZGvQhiFcy YLOFQcSB/MS82n3ec37vykNqRFTX9rVWR2U5+pZNIggll0CUOQN9BDdm1LfBmcZxIEqjL6r2JU/D galaB7Zg4jlY2ulnIx9OR4iMRl38CAFyKaA8jAxE7lNn650VKMULZ/54crqn0YQCJGQliebXkFIK hwqmGm28cgsSjz/hzRCMneQEwMjVoH3gWTtMPgIslJUV5uIluvUEkyzU+gUGQO62e9NuSdZCzNOM fDPC87iCqfE9gHinsIrSL16TPBfrYIeHzqKU90a50jCh54EcrgAUFo5ibzvebgr/I66USQ0CspQp IVSoBQK3WswDDIndIraHxoglqOjM1d044PQvu1NY0EHtqQR/XwJ+PeCs0x2dSlApZVw4MPER23PD 7JekoHxrqTRod/2Gx5nhx5dfAJhqPt7tDMIZxNN/7lOIaparPn7ZQ88drlORC2eLWXowxIq4gHTh VN1BSmsHoxYAbPWDTuGQuuecS+aYQUYpfr0YqPQOuuUk5tApK077+2xfOYP+XyWEIwPcE49lvT9N y2+wU2KylGGp4yxlALcm6fSlmgk62yfSsfNunDl5d6W91MBUoZw679YAJoMMkhijuXdFOL+khaL2 s+g3zy4APQuQvSc/BNAYnkl6E8ivYtEHJXa1dihE3zgnKMdNgN8DiIwgA17NykUMvFDQ+LALvXXI BuBLAHv/DvBmc/0HzR03PqXmLcQAAAAASUVORK5CYII= In-Reply-To: <001a01c49144$ed587ee0$0200a8c0@sedrcw11488> (Lennart Borgman's message of "Fri, 3 Sep 2004 01:27:10 +0200") User-Agent: Gnus/5.1003 (Gnus v5.10.3) Emacs/21.3.50 (gnu/linux) X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: main.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:26772 X-Report-Spam: http://spam.gmane.org/gmane.emacs.devel:26772 "Lennart Borgman" writes: > - A customization group, maybe named "external-programs"? Normally developers define a group, and when defining variables, they assign the group with it. Custom allows you to do the inverse, too: Define a group together with all the variables belonging to it -- the members. Therefore somebody could get started working on something like that, and post his defgroup statement here for others to consider. Once we are happy, such a file would be easy to add to Emacs -- no other files are touched! And it wouldn't run against the feature freeze. :) There is a page on the Emacs Wiki, for example, where people tried to collect the variables newbies are most likely to customize so that we can just offer them in a "Most Useful" group or something like that. Unfortunately, it seems that people lost interest (including me, ahem). Alex. -- .O. http://www.emacswiki.org/alex/ ..O Schroeder's fifth law: OOO Never accept more work than you can handle in one night of hacking.