From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Sebastian Tennant Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.help Subject: Re: Another 'best' practices question ?? Date: Fri, 04 May 2007 22:34:23 +0300 Message-ID: <87zm4kz8lc.fsf@moley.org> References: <1178214443.3172.18.camel@CASE> <463A22EF.7060707@gmail.com> <1178220921.3172.31.camel@CASE> <463ACED2.3000006@physik.hu-berlin.de> <87hcqsd34h.fsf@moley.org> <878xc41l5p.fsf@moley.org> NNTP-Posting-Host: lo.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Trace: sea.gmane.org 1178307217 10522 80.91.229.12 (4 May 2007 19:33:37 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@sea.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Fri, 4 May 2007 19:33:37 +0000 (UTC) To: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Original-X-From: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Fri May 04 21:33:36 2007 Return-path: Envelope-to: geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([199.232.76.165]) by lo.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.50) id 1Hk3X6-0003LP-6m for geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Fri, 04 May 2007 21:33:36 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1Hk3dl-0008DF-79 for geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Fri, 04 May 2007 15:40:29 -0400 Original-Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1Hk3dV-0008D0-JT for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Fri, 04 May 2007 15:40:13 -0400 Original-Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1Hk3dU-0008Cl-3r for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Fri, 04 May 2007 15:40:13 -0400 Original-Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1Hk3dT-0008CT-Rx for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Fri, 04 May 2007 15:40:11 -0400 Original-Received: from main.gmane.org ([80.91.229.2] helo=ciao.gmane.org) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS-1.0:RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA1:32) (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1Hk3Wn-0001Ko-UA for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Fri, 04 May 2007 15:33:18 -0400 Original-Received: from list by ciao.gmane.org with local (Exim 4.43) id 1Hk3WT-0006ec-0d for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Fri, 04 May 2007 21:32:57 +0200 Original-Received: from 85.105.17.65 ([85.105.17.65]) by main.gmane.org with esmtp (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Fri, 04 May 2007 21:32:57 +0200 Original-Received: from sebyte by 85.105.17.65 with local (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Fri, 04 May 2007 21:32:57 +0200 X-Injected-Via-Gmane: http://gmane.org/ Original-Lines: 57 Original-X-Complaints-To: usenet@sea.gmane.org X-Gmane-NNTP-Posting-Host: 85.105.17.65 User-Agent: Gnus/5.110006 (No Gnus v0.6) Emacs/22.0.95 (gnu/linux) Cancel-Lock: sha1:Mg/q+OwAZmiAgDeOEwMIwE5nJDc= X-detected-kernel: Linux 2.6, seldom 2.4 (older, 4) X-BeenThere: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Users list for the GNU Emacs text editor List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Original-Sender: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Errors-To: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.help:43690 Archived-At: Quoth Tom Tromey : > Sebastian> Regarding ELPA, a couple of suggestions if I may be so bold: > Sebastian> 1. How about 'installed' rather than in the > status column. > [...] > I chose blank because it looks sort of busy with "installed". But I > don't really know what is best -- "installed" is clearer. The answer is simple. How about some font-lock-keyword highlighting? 'Installed' could be in a different colour (in about 3 lines of code) could it not? > Sebastian> 2. A hint as to how to run the newly installed package (not in the > Sebastian> description because there isn't room, but somewhere). For > Sebastian> instance, having installed sudoku in a snip, I then had to > Sebastian> navigate to the source file and read the commentary to find out > Sebastian> that I had to eval (require 'sudoku') before I was good to go. > > Yeah, this is a problem. I don't really know what to do about it. > > For most packages, package.el will extract ";;;###autoload" comments > and make those available at package-activation time. I did notice a buffer called sudoku-autoloads.el (or something like that) lying around after I'd installed the package and played the game, but I didn't examine it closely. I'm pretty sure it didn't include any clear instructions. > But I see I didn't add these to sudoku.el :(. Don't worry man... it works. That's all that matters. Others will take care of things when it catches on. I, for one, think it's a great tool. > If you try the bubbles game you can see it in action a bit more > clearly: it will download, install, and activate the game, and then > you can just do M-x bubbles. I'm afraid I can't spend my time just playing games, as much as I'd like to ;-) > Sebastian> 3. 'g' in the Package buffer is described as 'revert'. > Sebastian> Is this not better described as 'refresh'? > > In 0.4 I'm using "refresh" for the 'r' option. "g" is "revert" by > analogy with dired or buffer-menu -- it undoes local changes but does > not download a new copy of the archive contents. Ah what the hell... :-) Sebastian P.S. I think it's time you started a thread called 'ELPA - Every Load Path Answer', or something like that. Actually, something like that, but you get my point I hope.