From: Tassilo Horn <tassilo@member.fsf.org>
To: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org
Subject: Re: Why emacs have not native language menu
Date: Thu, 26 Jul 2007 10:00:25 +0200 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <87zm1j8uhy.fsf@baldur.tsdh.de> (raw)
In-Reply-To: v91wew8ele.fsf@marauder.physik.uni-ulm.de
Reiner Steib <reinersteib+gmane@imap.cc> writes:
Hi Reiner,
>> Another cause is that emacs has a precise terminology. To blur it
>> would be a source of confusion.
>
> Do you think the German tutorial blurs the precise terminology?
I've never read it. But after a quick overview I'd say, no. But the
tutorial is written by one person, wheras if every emacs manual was to
be translated, there would be a need for quite a few more translators.
And the bigger the group, the less are the chances to keep terminology
precise and consistent.
But what is this English warning talking about? Here, with `emacs -Q'
`C-x C-b' is still bound to `list-buffers'.
,----
| ** C-x C-b has been rebound, but you can use the `Buffers' menu instead
| [More] **
`----
> I agree that a mixture is bad. But complete translations of manuals
> would be fine, I think.
Yes, for manuals I agree somewhat, but as others mentioned: Only the
original English manual is the definitive guide.
But translations could be useful for poeple, anyway.
>> Gretchen Müller won't fetch her mail with Gnus anyway, even though it
>> was localized.
>
> There are several people in de.comm.software.gnus who say that they
> often have difficulties to understand Gnus manuals.
The Gnus manual is quite special, because Lars wrote it in a very
entertaining style. Maybe it's a bit harder to read and less precise
than the usual emacs documentation.
Bye,
Tassilo
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2007-07-23 12:03 Why emacs have not native language menu lu
2007-07-23 19:33 ` Eli Zaretskii
2007-07-23 22:42 ` lu
2007-07-24 0:17 ` Jean-Christophe Helary
2007-07-24 0:36 ` Nick Roberts
2007-07-24 1:00 ` Emacs localization (Re: Why emacs have not native language menu) Jean-Christophe Helary
2007-07-24 8:04 ` Lennart Borgman (gmail)
[not found] ` <mailman.3832.1185238836.32220.help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org>
2007-07-24 7:48 ` Jason Rumney
2007-07-24 11:19 ` Jean-Christophe Helary
2007-07-24 15:23 ` Peter Dyballa
[not found] ` <mailman.3854.1185275992.32220.help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org>
2007-07-24 11:35 ` Harald Hanche-Olsen
2007-07-24 12:10 ` Jean-Christophe Helary
2007-07-24 14:30 ` Eli Zaretskii
2007-07-24 14:50 ` Jean-Christophe Helary
2007-07-24 15:11 ` Lennart Borgman (gmail)
2007-07-24 15:21 ` Jean-Christophe Helary
[not found] ` <mailman.3880.1185290519.32220.help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org>
2007-07-24 16:30 ` Pascal Bourguignon
2007-07-24 16:58 ` Eli Zaretskii
2007-07-24 18:51 ` Peter Dyballa
2007-07-24 15:21 ` Eli Zaretskii
2007-07-25 20:00 ` Translation of Emacs Info manuals (was: Emacs localization ...) Reiner Steib
2007-07-26 3:11 ` Eli Zaretskii
2007-07-26 4:42 ` Translation of Emacs Info manuals Katsumi Yamaoka
2007-07-26 12:28 ` Eli Zaretskii
2007-07-24 11:45 ` Emacs localization (Re: Why emacs have not native language menu) Jason Rumney
2007-07-24 10:05 ` Why emacs have not native language menu Peter Dyballa
2007-07-24 11:05 ` Jean-Christophe Helary
2007-07-24 11:12 ` Peter Dyballa
2007-07-24 11:21 ` Jean-Christophe Helary
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2007-07-24 12:54 ` Thien-Thi Nguyen
2007-07-24 14:00 ` Jean-Christophe Helary
2007-07-24 14:40 ` William Case
2007-07-24 15:08 ` Jean-Christophe Helary
2007-07-24 15:07 ` Eli Zaretskii
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2007-07-25 5:53 ` Stefan Monnier
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2007-07-24 14:26 ` Thien-Thi Nguyen
2007-07-24 14:57 ` Jean-Christophe Helary
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2007-07-24 16:02 ` Pascal Bourguignon
2007-07-25 5:16 ` Jean-Christophe Helary
2007-07-25 6:44 ` Alexey Pustyntsev
2007-07-25 6:55 ` Jean-Christophe Helary
2007-07-25 10:38 ` Alexey Pustyntsev
2007-07-25 16:47 ` William Case
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2007-07-27 20:28 ` David Kastrup
2007-07-25 9:36 ` Dmitri Minaev
2007-07-25 11:15 ` Alexey Pustyntsev
2007-07-25 12:01 ` Dmitri Minaev
2007-07-25 13:06 ` Alexey Pustyntsev
2007-07-25 13:17 ` Lennart Borgman (gmail)
2007-07-26 4:16 ` Dmitri Minaev
2007-07-25 12:28 ` Peter Dyballa
2007-07-25 12:59 ` Lennart Borgman (gmail)
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2007-07-25 10:51 ` Pascal Bourguignon
2007-07-25 12:05 ` Jean-Christophe Helary
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2007-07-25 12:31 ` Pascal Bourguignon
2007-07-24 14:56 ` Pascal Bourguignon
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2007-07-24 12:30 ` Pascal Bourguignon
2007-07-24 15:25 ` Peter Dyballa
2007-07-24 15:52 ` William Case
2007-07-24 16:29 ` Why emacs have not native language menu -- TYPO William Case
2007-07-24 18:40 ` Why emacs have not native language menu Peter Dyballa
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2007-07-24 3:45 ` Stefan Monnier
2007-07-24 11:29 ` Pascal Bourguignon
2007-07-24 12:18 ` Jean-Christophe Helary
2007-07-24 15:24 ` Peter Dyballa
2007-07-24 15:39 ` Jean-Christophe Helary
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2007-07-24 12:48 ` Pascal Bourguignon
2007-07-24 13:10 ` Hadron
2007-07-24 14:02 ` Pascal Bourguignon
2007-07-24 14:19 ` Hadron
2007-07-25 21:56 ` Giorgos Keramidas
2007-07-26 13:36 ` Hadron
2007-07-26 15:02 ` Jean-Christophe Helary
2007-07-26 19:12 ` Eli Zaretskii
2007-07-27 0:23 ` Jean-Christophe Helary
2007-07-27 10:47 ` Eli Zaretskii
2007-07-27 11:52 ` Jean-Christophe Helary
2007-07-27 12:06 ` Eli Zaretskii
2007-07-27 13:32 ` Jean-Christophe Helary
2007-07-27 18:42 ` Eli Zaretskii
2007-07-27 18:45 ` Eli Zaretskii
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2007-07-27 12:00 ` Hadron
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2007-07-27 20:31 ` David Kastrup
2007-07-27 21:01 ` ryofurue
2007-07-26 14:56 ` Eli Zaretskii
2007-07-26 15:03 ` Pascal Bourguignon
2007-07-26 16:02 ` Jean-Christophe Helary
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2007-07-26 16:56 ` Pascal Bourguignon
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2007-07-26 17:57 ` Giorgos Keramidas
2007-07-27 18:51 ` Eli Zaretskii
2007-07-27 20:35 ` David Kastrup
2007-07-28 7:30 ` Eli Zaretskii
2007-07-24 14:58 ` Eli Zaretskii
2007-07-24 15:12 ` Jean-Christophe Helary
2007-07-24 16:27 ` Eli Zaretskii
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2007-07-24 15:57 ` Pascal Bourguignon
2007-07-24 21:46 ` David Kastrup
2007-07-25 10:42 ` Pascal Bourguignon
2007-07-24 13:07 ` Hadron
2007-07-24 14:09 ` Pascal Bourguignon
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2007-07-25 5:42 ` Stefan Monnier
2007-07-25 8:11 ` Peter Dyballa
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2007-07-25 10:19 ` Ilya Zakharevich
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2007-07-25 12:22 ` Peter Dyballa
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2007-07-25 20:25 ` Ilya Zakharevich
2007-07-25 20:34 ` Pascal Bourguignon
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2007-07-24 7:41 ` Tassilo Horn
2007-07-24 11:12 ` Jean-Christophe Helary
2007-07-24 11:53 ` David Hansen
2007-07-24 12:23 ` Jean-Christophe Helary
2007-07-24 15:21 ` Peter Dyballa
2007-07-24 15:27 ` Jean-Christophe Helary
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2007-07-24 12:32 ` Tassilo Horn
2007-07-25 19:45 ` Reiner Steib
2007-07-26 8:12 ` Tassilo Horn
2007-07-25 19:31 ` Reiner Steib
2007-07-26 8:00 ` Tassilo Horn [this message]
2007-07-26 8:16 ` Tassilo Horn
2007-07-26 19:35 ` Reiner Steib
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2007-07-23 13:53 ` poppyer
2007-07-23 22:45 ` lu
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2007-07-24 7:43 ` Tassilo Horn
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