From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Bastien Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: Why Emacs needs a modern bug tracker Date: Tue, 08 Jan 2008 01:06:12 +0000 Message-ID: <87zlvhyvln.fsf@bzg.ath.cx> References: <20080104164454.0A4BD830697@snark.thyrsus.com> <20080104232514.GB2735@muc.de> <87r6gxoyjv.fsf@catnip.gol.com> <87abnkq6ei.fsf@bzg.ath.cx> <87y7b3q26j.fsf@bzg.ath.cx> <87myrjpygi.fsf@bzg.ath.cx> NNTP-Posting-Host: lo.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1199754397 17705 80.91.229.12 (8 Jan 2008 01:06:37 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Tue, 8 Jan 2008 01:06:37 +0000 (UTC) Cc: emacs-devel@gnu.org To: rms@gnu.org Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Tue Jan 08 02:06:58 2008 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([199.232.76.165]) by lo.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.50) id 1JC2vf-0005Mp-9A for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Tue, 08 Jan 2008 02:06:55 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1JC2vI-000405-7z for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Mon, 07 Jan 2008 20:06:32 -0500 Original-Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1JC2vF-0003zz-CX for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Mon, 07 Jan 2008 20:06:29 -0500 Original-Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1JC2vD-0003zk-TP for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Mon, 07 Jan 2008 20:06:29 -0500 Original-Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1JC2vD-0003zh-Pj for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Mon, 07 Jan 2008 20:06:27 -0500 Original-Received: from mu-out-0910.google.com ([209.85.134.187]) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1JC2vD-00017q-EQ for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Mon, 07 Jan 2008 20:06:27 -0500 Original-Received: by mu-out-0910.google.com with SMTP id i10so6086194mue.3 for ; Mon, 07 Jan 2008 17:06:26 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:received:from:to:cc:subject:in-reply-to:references:user-agent:date:message-id:mime-version:content-type:sender; bh=3JUpDsLgowbbr6aduZcV68gU/OFVARBLw+SHbJ2zNVo=; b=NjJhBLWKQxv4/pNY+EfWkvdokLDiUzSQzh2SWCuRUffzFtYupQsLa6+q2qTup/QEB1QzyidmTUp1rLdK/Jo2OmtfZoUcrwXB3btTbCp22i52vijBWTTzVolGXbikpnMrzlx9I9LlhvFiIcjNrfMI8B4mozi3jAUM4U+q4vod7v0= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=from:to:cc:subject:in-reply-to:references:user-agent:date:message-id:mime-version:content-type:sender; b=Mwj5C3yFa1pLaILt+d42brMSBMS7WMjkMeCfnRBcnUcTqABBbY9bwJRpsMJdeuox4xRZVFx01o48S6SAVEgHDDXGIb3yKojix8LGkUcLIueXUTBz9aAYEhAd4pnFrB/olljxQJztEFg1vEfYuytYUDJdNnuuFH0BpLADYnEVC/Y= Original-Received: by 10.78.138.6 with SMTP id l6mr60499hud.32.1199754386107; Mon, 07 Jan 2008 17:06:26 -0800 (PST) Original-Received: from bzg.ath.cx ( [86.134.206.94]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id f7sm615630nfh.38.2008.01.07.17.06.21 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=OTHER); Mon, 07 Jan 2008 17:06:24 -0800 (PST) Original-Received: by bzg.ath.cx (Postfix, from userid 1000) id 2342C1575A8; Tue, 8 Jan 2008 01:06:11 +0000 (GMT) In-Reply-To: (Richard Stallman's message of "Mon, 07 Jan 2008 12:15:07 -0500") User-Agent: Gnus/5.110007 (No Gnus v0.7) Emacs/23.0.0 (gnu/linux) X-detected-kernel: by monty-python.gnu.org: Linux 2.6 (newer, 2) X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:86540 Archived-At: Richard Stallman writes: > I've edited the current CVS etc/TODO file and made it org friendly: > > http://www.cognition.ens.fr/~guerry/u/TODO.org > > It is interesting. I don't really know how to use Org mode, but > I could learn. > > If someone adds an ordinary entry of the form used in etc/TODO, > what will Org mode do with it? Will it get confused? Not at all. Even though it would be better to have shorter headings, putting the full description of the issues in the subtree itself. Doing M-x org-mode on TODO will hide all the the subtrees. Each item can then be unfolded with the TAB key, which cycle the visibility of the entry at point through these states: fold, show children, show all. Nothing that you wouldn't be able to achieve with outline and a combination of hide-* show-*, but Org makes it easy. > You can see these columns: status, importance, owner, version, system, > milestone, and file. > > I don't see the ones past "version". I guess they are truncated. > What is the command to view them? M-x org-columns The line starting with #+COLUMNS: is really a formatting line defining what properties should be displayed in the columns. Obviously the total width of the columns is too large for you. When the column view is active, you can move columns to the left or to the right with M- or M-. But first things first: the column view is a pretty advanced feature of Org. Before that, there are to-do keywords and tags. The manual is very accurate, but let me know if you need more pointers. -- Bastien