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From: Juri Linkov <juri@jurta.org>
To: Alan Mackenzie <acm@muc.de>
Cc: Richard Stallman <rms@gnu.org>, emacs-devel@gnu.org
Subject: Re: What IDE features do we need?
Date: Wed, 23 Apr 2008 00:12:21 +0300	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <87zlrleftm.fsf@jurta.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20080422115216.GA2609@muc.de> (Alan Mackenzie's message of "Tue,  22 Apr 2008 11:52:16 +0000")

> My opinion is that things like how to mark regions are not _that_
> important in attracting new users.  At least, not the sort of users that
> would be staying with Emacs anyway.  I don't think it's that big a deal
> for newbies whether they use <shift>+arrows or C-<space> to create a
> region.  As long as it works well, of course.
>
> What is important is _features_.  About 3 years ago, I was using
> hi-lock-mode to highlight some anomalies in a log file (found by a
> regexp).  My boss (an ex-programmer) saw it, asked me what I was doing,
> and within an hour had Emacs on his PC and was using hi-lock-mode to
> look at other log files.
>
> However, the lack of certain features is critical.  Juri, what were the
> features of that IDE that made the "unskilled novice" so productive?

Y'know, all these "intellisense", code browsing and refactoring things.

-- 
Juri Linkov
http://www.jurta.org/emacs/




  parent reply	other threads:[~2008-04-22 21:12 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 40+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2008-04-21 19:46 Please stop proposing changes in defaults! Richard Stallman
2008-04-21 21:32 ` Paul R
2008-04-22  4:20   ` Richard Stallman
2008-04-21 21:40 ` Juri Linkov
2008-04-22  3:30   ` Eli Zaretskii
2008-04-22  4:20   ` Richard Stallman
2008-04-22  8:48     ` Juri Linkov
2008-04-22 11:52   ` What IDE features do we need? [Was: Please stop proposing changes in defaults!] Alan Mackenzie
2008-04-22 12:22     ` Dan Kruchinin
2008-04-22 12:28     ` Dan Kruchinin
2008-04-22 20:08       ` Richard Stallman
2008-04-22 21:13         ` Paul R
2008-04-22 13:28     ` What IDE features do we need? defaults!] Eli Zaretskii
2008-04-22 13:41       ` joakim
2008-04-22 17:07         ` klaus.berndl
2008-04-22 14:27       ` Drew Adams
2008-04-22 15:44       ` What IDE features do we need? Alan Mackenzie
2008-04-22 15:40         ` Drew Adams
2008-04-22 17:12         ` joakim
2008-04-22 15:44     ` Eric Hanchrow
2008-04-22 16:27       ` Drew Adams
2008-04-22 21:12     ` Juri Linkov [this message]
2008-04-23 15:58       ` Richard Stallman
2008-04-23 20:29         ` Tassilo Horn
2008-04-24  3:21           ` Eli Zaretskii
2008-04-24 12:26             ` Stefan Monnier
2008-04-24 16:26               ` Eli Zaretskii
2008-04-24 17:21                 ` Thomas Lord
2008-04-25  3:40                   ` Richard M Stallman
2008-04-28 18:28                   ` Mike Mattie
2008-04-28 17:57                 ` Mike Mattie
2008-04-28 18:23                   ` Eli Zaretskii
2008-04-24 19:55             ` Bruce Stephens
2008-04-24  5:15           ` Richard Stallman
2008-04-24  6:24             ` joakim
2008-04-24 19:42               ` Richard M Stallman
2008-04-24  6:35             ` Tassilo Horn
2008-04-24  9:58               ` klaus.berndl
2008-04-24 10:25                 ` David Kastrup
2008-04-24 19:43               ` Richard M Stallman

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