From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: David Hansen Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: An Emacs plug-in for a browser (Firefox?) Date: Sat, 06 Sep 2008 23:36:32 +0200 Organization: disorganized Message-ID: <87zlml7y8v.fsf@localhorst.mine.nu> References: <18624.40059.414121.633475@gargle.gargle.HOWL> <48C0BB3A.4080201@pajato.com> <87zlmnezy9.fsf@shellarchive.co.uk> <48C0FC53.4020806@gmail.com> <6fa54e4e0809050420i5132ace5red5a011b69ecd1ed@mail.gmail.com> <6fa54e4e0809060348l2ca36872u2445d0824960021b@mail.gmail.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: lo.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1220737116 8364 80.91.229.12 (6 Sep 2008 21:38:36 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Sat, 6 Sep 2008 21:38:36 +0000 (UTC) To: emacs-devel@gnu.org Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Sat Sep 06 23:39:31 2008 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([199.232.76.165]) by lo.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.50) id 1Kc5VA-0002Eb-Kp for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Sat, 06 Sep 2008 23:39:28 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:32944 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1Kc5UA-0005ez-Vx for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Sat, 06 Sep 2008 17:38:27 -0400 Original-Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1Kc5U6-0005df-9c for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sat, 06 Sep 2008 17:38:22 -0400 Original-Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1Kc5U4-0005cd-0z for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sat, 06 Sep 2008 17:38:21 -0400 Original-Received: from [199.232.76.173] (port=39515 helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1Kc5U3-0005ca-SJ for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sat, 06 Sep 2008 17:38:19 -0400 Original-Received: from main.gmane.org ([80.91.229.2]:44156 helo=ciao.gmane.org) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS-1.0:RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA1:32) (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1Kc5U3-0003IC-Lj for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sat, 06 Sep 2008 17:38:19 -0400 Original-Received: from list by ciao.gmane.org with local (Exim 4.43) id 1Kc5Ty-0003MH-6j for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sat, 06 Sep 2008 21:38:14 +0000 Original-Received: from e178062192.adsl.alicedsl.de ([85.178.62.192]) by main.gmane.org with esmtp (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Sat, 06 Sep 2008 21:38:14 +0000 Original-Received: from david.hansen by e178062192.adsl.alicedsl.de with local (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Sat, 06 Sep 2008 21:38:14 +0000 X-Injected-Via-Gmane: http://gmane.org/ Mail-Followup-To: emacs-devel@gnu.org Original-Lines: 40 Original-X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org X-Gmane-NNTP-Posting-Host: e178062192.adsl.alicedsl.de Mail-Copies-To: nobody User-Agent: Gnus/5.110011 (No Gnus v0.11) Emacs/23.0.60 (gnu/linux) Cancel-Lock: sha1:47VQPZQfIPuR3H9xWGvBZq3AJSU= X-detected-kernel: by monty-python.gnu.org: Linux 2.6, seldom 2.4 (older, 4) X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:103610 Archived-At: On Sat, 06 Sep 2008 17:04:19 -0400 Richard M. Stallman wrote: > Why not ? See this thread : > http://lists.gnu.org/archive/html/emacs-devel/2008-05/msg00456.html > He already embeds emacs within emacs. Embedding firefox (or chrome, or > midori, or whatever) shouldn't be much harder. > > I have no idea what you mean by "embedding". Joakim wrote a patch that allows him to display arbitrary GTK Widgets in a buffer. This could either be used to directly link Emacs against the Gecko or WebKit GTK Widget, or to use the special GTK widget "GtkPlug" which embeds an application capable of the XEmbed protocol. > > I would be very glad to see people start working on some of them. > > > That's if we want to make emacs itself display the web page. > > Yes, exactly. What else could we be talking about? Just to give you an idea (OK, that includes the compiled files): [~/src/WebKit] $ du -hs . 1.3G . I'm not quite sure where you want to get the resources to realize such a huge project. > If you want to request, from Emacs, the display of some HTML through a > browser, we already have that feature. We do this by invoking a > separate browser process. That way is much cleaner. Someone mentioned that it would be really cool to access all the DOM stuff from Emacs Lisp. I have to admit that this would be pretty appealing (though I'm not sure if it's really worth the work). You could write nice filter for the web, e.g. remove ads, filter cookies or change images of your president to "hello.jpg". David