From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Giorgos Keramidas Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.help Subject: Re: [OT] Gnus and MTA(local) Date: Thu, 09 Jul 2009 05:59:35 +0300 Message-ID: <87zlbesgrs.fsf@kobe.laptop> References: <87hbxm6453.fsf@kobe.laptop> <86vdm28u0a.fsf@betla.izb.knu.ac.kr> NNTP-Posting-Host: lo.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1247108422 24553 80.91.229.12 (9 Jul 2009 03:00:22 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Thu, 9 Jul 2009 03:00:22 +0000 (UTC) Cc: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org To: Byung-Hee HWANG Original-X-From: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Thu Jul 09 05:00:15 2009 Return-path: Envelope-to: geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([199.232.76.165]) by lo.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.50) id 1MOjrp-0000wH-Ar for geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Thu, 09 Jul 2009 05:00:13 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:34329 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1MOjro-000163-Qj for geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Wed, 08 Jul 2009 23:00:12 -0400 Original-Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1MOjrQ-00014L-09 for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Wed, 08 Jul 2009 22:59:48 -0400 Original-Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1MOjrK-000100-H6 for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Wed, 08 Jul 2009 22:59:46 -0400 Original-Received: from [199.232.76.173] (port=33855 helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1MOjrK-0000zw-Bn for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Wed, 08 Jul 2009 22:59:42 -0400 Original-Received: from poseidon.ceid.upatras.gr ([150.140.141.169]:33716) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1MOjrJ-0005HL-J2 for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Wed, 08 Jul 2009 22:59:42 -0400 Original-Received: from mail.ceid.upatras.gr (unknown [10.1.0.143]) by poseidon.ceid.upatras.gr (Postfix) with ESMTP id 64BBCEB5309; Thu, 9 Jul 2009 05:59:38 +0300 (EEST) Original-Received: from localhost (europa.ceid.upatras.gr [127.0.0.1]) by mail.ceid.upatras.gr (Postfix) with ESMTP id 537D245088; Thu, 9 Jul 2009 05:59:38 +0300 (EEST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at ceid.upatras.gr Original-Received: from mail.ceid.upatras.gr ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (europa.ceid.upatras.gr [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id E4dDf7uZZ7lr; Thu, 9 Jul 2009 05:59:38 +0300 (EEST) Original-Received: from kobe.laptop (adsl139-187.kln.forthnet.gr [77.49.10.187]) by mail.ceid.upatras.gr (Postfix) with ESMTP id 126E14503F; Thu, 9 Jul 2009 05:59:38 +0300 (EEST) Original-Received: from kobe.laptop (kobe.laptop [127.0.0.1]) by kobe.laptop (8.14.3/8.14.3) with ESMTP id n692xbO4067068; Thu, 9 Jul 2009 05:59:37 +0300 (EEST) (envelope-from keramida@ceid.upatras.gr) Original-Received: (from keramida@localhost) by kobe.laptop (8.14.3/8.14.3/Submit) id n692xZ4E067067; Thu, 9 Jul 2009 05:59:35 +0300 (EEST) (envelope-from keramida@ceid.upatras.gr) In-Reply-To: <86vdm28u0a.fsf@betla.izb.knu.ac.kr> (Byung-Hee HWANG's message of "Thu, 09 Jul 2009 11:33:57 +0900") User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/23.1.50 (berkeley-unix) X-detected-operating-system: by monty-python.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.6 (newer, 3) X-BeenThere: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Users list for the GNU Emacs text editor List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Original-Sender: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Errors-To: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.help:65873 Archived-At: On Thu, 09 Jul 2009 11:33:57 +0900, Byung-Hee HWANG wrote: >> So, what are your reasons for switching from Postfix to something else? >> Maybe we can help you configure Postfix to do what you have in mind, and >> you can still keep it. > > Hi Giorgos! > > Actually Postfix setup is more easy than the others. So Postfix goes > with many spammers, in recent. To tell truth, i want to take off such > a dishonor. That's the first time I've heard something like this! My opinion is that it is not a dishonorable thing to use something that works, but just `sensible'. For example knives can be used to do many dishonorable things: to kill a person; to threaten others and extort money, resources, or even sex; to mutilate and harm both human and non-human beings. They can also be used to do wonderful things like cooking, carving wooden artwork, to perform medical operations that save many lives every day, and so on. Should we stop using knives because *some* people find evil uses for them? My guess is `no' :) > Still clean MTA by the point is Exim, i think. Many free software > folks use that. But i won't change the outbond MTA (Postfix on FreeBSD > 4.11-STABLE). The outbond performs so many tasks for me. Only my > concern is local MTA. That is easy, no trouble though it fails. Ah, that's much different. If you do that to learn how to operate another MTA, then this is fine and a worthy project, because it extends knowledge and will be very useful when you have to administer an Exim installation in the future. So, if it's ok to have a bit of downtime, then go for it :-)