From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Bastien Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: line-move-visual Date: Sat, 11 Jul 2009 04:46:53 +0200 Message-ID: <87zlbcdjhe.fsf@bzg.ath.cx> References: <200907092112.21879.jem@iki.fi> <87ws6hupsk.fsf@bzg.ath.cx> <87y6qxkqwo.fsf@uwakimon.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp> <200907110019.08226.jem@iki.fi> NNTP-Posting-Host: lo.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1247280442 4743 80.91.229.12 (11 Jul 2009 02:47:22 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Sat, 11 Jul 2009 02:47:22 +0000 (UTC) Cc: "Stephen J. Turnbull" , emacs-devel@gnu.org To: Johan =?iso-8859-1?Q?Myr=E9en?= Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Sat Jul 11 04:47:14 2009 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([199.232.76.165]) by lo.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.50) id 1MPScL-0007LK-FL for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Sat, 11 Jul 2009 04:47:13 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:48364 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1MPScK-0006Uv-UG for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Fri, 10 Jul 2009 22:47:13 -0400 Original-Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1MPScE-0006Rl-Sx for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Fri, 10 Jul 2009 22:47:06 -0400 Original-Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1MPSc9-0006N9-KX for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Fri, 10 Jul 2009 22:47:05 -0400 Original-Received: from [199.232.76.173] (port=41179 helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1MPSc9-0006N2-Gb for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Fri, 10 Jul 2009 22:47:01 -0400 Original-Received: from rv-out-0708.google.com ([209.85.198.242]:22382) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1MPSc9-00043F-21 for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Fri, 10 Jul 2009 22:47:01 -0400 Original-Received: by rv-out-0708.google.com with SMTP id f25so503386rvb.6 for ; Fri, 10 Jul 2009 19:47:00 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:from:to:cc:subject :in-reply-to:references:user-agent:date:message-id:mime-version :content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=gwiekWvSuqwNoeZJ3C7+tyUBwKu/IGBt5jRxk3kQEqE=; b=LLykyoKkw3h8nM7U/7vwOWPuahpv8wxbh19qzidZbSKOkpYdaulQEQKg7qX5QX9p+w 2vGdfHIkyCfgX2px1cOhMFPABgucagFwZ8c5vYPvQ/KI+eiOGMmDCA4mXitYwBDSalLW WmQWsp4rwXGsHbRDoLxypWUKXPyzInuYcy8dM= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=from:to:cc:subject:in-reply-to:references:user-agent:date :message-id:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=LcDOfC849ojdLBknFp5wygvKD3CzByZJYd2xw8Zn8XBkFfwExDlEk1L0eEnbmxxMcu V0n8Uk83mzmqex+6OhVLZZ2IMeGGCJjjiyTDwaj4gHmCw4kEgEQCsaBkTZ8UzPiFVWlM DGEWB9WuPExNSS5bPHHmda2JS1n6FafYrZTFo= Original-Received: by 10.140.144.6 with SMTP id r6mr1737660rvd.276.1247280420213; Fri, 10 Jul 2009 19:47:00 -0700 (PDT) Original-Received: from bzg.ath.cx ([222.29.50.13]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id g14sm10093232rvb.34.2009.07.10.19.46.57 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=RC4-MD5); Fri, 10 Jul 2009 19:46:59 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <200907110019.08226.jem@iki.fi> ("Johan =?iso-8859-1?Q?Myr=E9?= =?iso-8859-1?Q?en=22's?= message of "Sat, 11 Jul 2009 00:19:07 +0300") User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/23.1.50 (gnu/linux) X-detected-operating-system: by monty-python.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.6 (newer, 2) X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:112328 Archived-At: Johan Myréen writes: > If (2) is the goal then ok, the behaviour of C-n makes sense. But you should > go all the way and change the behaviour of C-a, C-e, C-k and probably a lot of > other stuff too. You should also get rid of the continuation marks, and make > the lines wrap at a more sensible place than the right edge of the window. > Wrapping should also occur at word boundaries. There are two problems: (1) the inconsistency you are pointing at between C-n/C-p and C-a/C-e (Tassilo also mentioned this) and (2) whether `line-move-visual' should default to nil. Solving (1) would be good, and the two issues are independant. -- Bastien