From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Stefan Kamphausen Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.help Subject: Re: AltGr with Emacs 23 on OSX and German keyboard Date: Fri, 13 Nov 2009 15:28:54 +0100 Organization: Church of Emacs Message-ID: <87zl6q1ot5.fsf@usenet.my.skamphausen.de> References: <87aayq4ww1.fsf@usenet.my.skamphausen.de> <87k4xu3ej7.fsf@usenet.my.skamphausen.de> NNTP-Posting-Host: lo.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1258123256 7189 80.91.229.12 (13 Nov 2009 14:40:56 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Fri, 13 Nov 2009 14:40:56 +0000 (UTC) To: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Original-X-From: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Fri Nov 13 15:40:50 2009 Return-path: Envelope-to: geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([199.232.76.165]) by lo.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.50) id 1N8xKR-0005ix-1V for geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Fri, 13 Nov 2009 15:40:47 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:49854 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1N8xKQ-0000RR-KL for geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Fri, 13 Nov 2009 09:40:46 -0500 Original-Path: news.stanford.edu!usenet.stanford.edu!goblin2!goblin.stu.neva.ru!feeder.erje.net!newsfeed.straub-nv.de!news.albasani.net!not-for-mail Original-Newsgroups: gnu.emacs.help Original-Lines: 48 Original-X-Trace: news.albasani.net vOyuRaY9Qa16HwGArfSIUoA3XEgFRlqXulKNwJFhT1esA5ps9PS+qjovYur/uTovdyp8KmVQepkKiFpVtAdlpm/PfFGxToP0xt8jCMBD9eZOEOf5mjezpuniMyDbJq09 Original-X-Complaints-To: abuse@albasani.net Original-NNTP-Posting-Date: Fri, 13 Nov 2009 14:28:54 +0000 (UTC) X-User-ID: d7FTTbzYLONfDZCDL8/OUL5Vh8xRtue5l4h+C8TBtG8= Cancel-Lock: sha1:o56LGZLgTVQ+dN+KRYrc4f7MO5E= sha1:QGFSlThnQB1HGhDcvzJGRyt0zv4= User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/23.1 (gnu/linux) X-NNTP-Posting-Host: pVYmj0fzOgMdP3Q8JIkS2FZI7GXNmAgrFMMM+sgEUnM= Original-Xref: news.stanford.edu gnu.emacs.help:174644 X-BeenThere: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Users list for the GNU Emacs text editor List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Original-Sender: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Errors-To: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.help:69714 Archived-At: Hi Peter, thanks for stepping up. Peter Dyballa writes: > Am 13.11.2009 um 11:27 schrieb Stefan Kamphausen: > >> However, I'm under the impression that X11 is nur running. I compiled >> the native Cocoa-version of Emacs23 (or is Carbon the newer one? >> Sorry >> to be fuzzy here). > > Could you be a bit more specific? You could describe the way you > launch that application – or copy a bit from the buffer which is > created when you choose "Send Bug Report…" from the Help menu. BTW, > is this Help menu in Emacs' frame or in the  menu bar? The X clients > can't "delegate" the menu-bar... the weekend is just a few hours away and I think I'll be near that machine again on saturday night. If you allow, I would contact you directly via email and, if some solution comes up, post that here later (just to avoid noise). Of course I will wait for your thumbs up before doing so. >> Will that in any way reflect the situation of the native programs? > > > No. You could try to create your own keyboard layout. See for example > http://wiki.neo-layout.org/browser/mac_osx/ or http://www.sil.org/ > computing/catalog/show_software.asp?id=94. Surely there are more > tools to edit the keyboard layout, which is very easy in Mac OS X. > You might need Peter Maurer's Key Codes application: http:// > www.manytricks.com/keycodes to determine the Mac OS X key codes. I hope I'll find something valuable there. Good, that this is an emacs-centric group whereas all the posts I read were from osx-related sites. I seem to find little valuable information on those. Kind regards, Stefan -- Stefan Kamphausen --- http://www.skamphausen.de a blessed +42 regexp of confusion (weapon in hand) You hit. The format string crumbles and turns to dust.