From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Chong Yidong Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: Emacs for new users Date: Mon, 23 Nov 2009 13:47:22 -0500 Message-ID: <87zl6dgjt1.fsf@stupidchicken.com> References: <912155b0911230837i48326730m82e0d54d4004be59@mail.gmail.com> <87y6lxdvnl.fsf@mandingo.thematica.it> NNTP-Posting-Host: lo.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1259002179 17172 80.91.229.12 (23 Nov 2009 18:49:39 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Mon, 23 Nov 2009 18:49:39 +0000 (UTC) Cc: Per =?utf-8?Q?Starb=C3=A4ck?= , emacs-devel@gnu.org To: Giuseppe Scrivano Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Mon Nov 23 19:49:32 2009 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([199.232.76.165]) by lo.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.50) id 1NCdyd-00029Q-Rp for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Mon, 23 Nov 2009 19:49:32 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:44856 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1NCdyd-00086L-1y for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Mon, 23 Nov 2009 13:49:31 -0500 Original-Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1NCdwl-0006hT-NA for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Mon, 23 Nov 2009 13:47:35 -0500 Original-Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1NCdwg-0006e1-LD for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Mon, 23 Nov 2009 13:47:35 -0500 Original-Received: from [199.232.76.173] (port=39463 helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1NCdwg-0006do-Bg for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Mon, 23 Nov 2009 13:47:30 -0500 Original-Received: from pantheon-po23.its.yale.edu ([130.132.50.117]:45632) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS-1.0:DHE_RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA1:32) (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1NCdwd-0005FO-PX; Mon, 23 Nov 2009 13:47:27 -0500 Original-Received: from furry (dhcp128036014119.central.yale.edu [128.36.14.119]) (authenticated bits=0) by pantheon-po23.its.yale.edu (8.12.11.20060308/8.12.11) with ESMTP id nANIlOrq004416 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NOT); Mon, 23 Nov 2009 13:47:25 -0500 Original-Received: by furry (Postfix, from userid 1000) id 0C987C071; Mon, 23 Nov 2009 13:47:23 -0500 (EST) In-Reply-To: <87y6lxdvnl.fsf@mandingo.thematica.it> (Giuseppe Scrivano's message of "Mon, 23 Nov 2009 17:59:42 +0100") User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/23.1.50 (gnu/linux) X-YaleITSMailFilter: Version 1.2c (attachment(s) not renamed) X-detected-operating-system: by monty-python.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.4-2.6 X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:117605 Archived-At: Giuseppe Scrivano writes: >> * beeping is often disturbing and unexpected, in particular for >> scrolling past the beginning or end of the >> buffer with the scroll wheel. (I agree. That's hardly an error.) > > yes, I agree with you, beeping is often disturbing. You can disable it, > changing the value of visible-bell to t: > > (setq visible-bell t) This is bug#1305. That discussion never came to a conclusion. Some people mentioned that they find the visible bell distracting, and I have to say I agree; personally I have ring-bell-function as 'ignore. (Actually, my main computer doesn't even have PC-speaker support in the kernel...) I guess we should add an Options menu entry to turn off the beeper, under "Blinking Cursor".