From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Chong Yidong Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: Emacs-23 release branch Date: Tue, 09 Mar 2010 23:09:29 -0500 Message-ID: <87zl2g24xy.fsf@stupidchicken.com> References: NNTP-Posting-Host: lo.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Trace: dough.gmane.org 1268194185 30779 80.91.229.12 (10 Mar 2010 04:09:45 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@dough.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Wed, 10 Mar 2010 04:09:45 +0000 (UTC) To: emacs-devel@gnu.org Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Wed Mar 10 05:09:41 2010 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([199.232.76.165]) by lo.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1NpDEq-00031L-L9 for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Wed, 10 Mar 2010 05:09:40 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:54000 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1NpDEq-0005Ms-3o for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Tue, 09 Mar 2010 23:09:40 -0500 Original-Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1NpDEm-0005MQ-4J for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Tue, 09 Mar 2010 23:09:36 -0500 Original-Received: from [140.186.70.92] (port=60004 helo=eggs.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1NpDEk-0005LR-31 for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Tue, 09 Mar 2010 23:09:34 -0500 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1NpDEi-0005Cj-Fl for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Tue, 09 Mar 2010 23:09:33 -0500 Original-Received: from pantheon-po25.its.yale.edu ([130.132.50.119]:50368) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1NpDEi-0005CN-DG for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Tue, 09 Mar 2010 23:09:32 -0500 Original-Received: from furry (adsl-99-58-201-129.dsl.wlfrct.sbcglobal.net [99.58.201.129]) (authenticated bits=0) by pantheon-po25.its.yale.edu (8.12.11.20060308/8.12.11) with ESMTP id o2A49TMx012619 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NOT) for ; Tue, 9 Mar 2010 23:09:30 -0500 Original-Received: by furry (Postfix, from userid 1000) id 8A66756CC01; Tue, 9 Mar 2010 23:09:29 -0500 (EST) In-Reply-To: (Stefan Monnier's message of "Tue, 09 Mar 2010 21:22:53 -0500") User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/23.1.93 (gnu/linux) X-YaleITSMailFilter: Version 1.2c (attachment(s) not renamed) X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.4-2.6 X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:121761 Stefan Monnier writes: > I have just cut the release branch for Emacs-23.2. It's at: > > sftp://bzr.sv.gnu.org/srv/bzr/emacs/emacs-23 > > Any changes which you'd like to see in Emacs-23.x should be installed > there and only there (from where we will then merge it back onto the > trunk). Also, note that I intend to make a new pretest tomorrow, from the release branch. Now that the release branch has been made, please install there only fixes that are regressions with respect to Emacs 22.3. If you think a non-regression fix should go into the branch, please ask Stefan or myself, or discuss on emacs-devel. Some of the changes in NEWS have yet to be documentated; if you have some time, help in this area would be much appreciated. As for the trunk, new features intended for Emacs 24 (and bugfixes not safe for Emacs 23.2) can now be checked in. However, if the change is major (or if you have commit access but are not a regular contributor) please inform emacs-devel first. ----- This is also a good point for people to chime in on their plans for Emacs 24. Stefan and I have had some discussions about this; here is our current list of major changes that we'd like to see included: * The package manager (Tromey et al.). * Bidi support (Eli). * Better VC interaction DVCSs (Dan, etc?). As an exception, we plan to backport VC improvements to Emacs 23.3. * Color-theme, or something like it. (Maybe using Custom Themes?). * Concurrency? (Scrivano et al.) (Even if we can't get this ready in time, it would be good to make this an "experimental" compile-time option.) * Lexbind? (Miles). (Miles, how realistic is it to include this?) * TTZ's experiment with SVG progress bar, abstracted into a general Emacs library for embedded graphics. If we can do this, I would also like to seriously consider switching to SVG as the default image library, replacing our use of xpm (e.g., the inline xpm images that we use for certain buffer widgets should be turned into SVG). * GTK widget embedding code? (Joakim). (Joakim, how realistic is it to include this?) The preceding SVG widget feature might make this less necessary; I'm not sure. Other stuff we'd like to see happen, if possible, are: * Increased usage of the Semantic library by other parts of Emacs. * Improving the Customize user interface (I have some working in this area that I'm going to commit soon).