From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Ted Zlatanov Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: finder.el UI Date: Mon, 22 Mar 2010 11:36:48 -0500 Organization: =?utf-8?B?0KLQtdC+0LTQvtGAINCX0LvQsNGC0LDQvdC+0LI=?= @ Cienfuegos Message-ID: <87zl20xqhr.fsf@lifelogs.com> References: <87zl2g24xy.fsf@stupidchicken.com> <87mxyfq3bz.fsf@gmx.de> <87sk87h49a.fsf@gmx.de> <87hbomwu4b.fsf_-_@mail.jurta.org> <878w9yr0zh.fsf_-_@mail.jurta.org> <87pr37ka78.fsf@mail.jurta.org> <87fx41uwl4.fsf@mail.jurta.org> <874okc6x5p.fsf_-_@lifelogs.com> <87y6hnq59o.fsf@mail.jurta.org> <878w9k1o1g.fsf@lifelogs.com> <87fx3szaxt.fsf@lifelogs.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: lo.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Trace: dough.gmane.org 1269276117 23723 80.91.229.12 (22 Mar 2010 16:41:57 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@dough.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Mon, 22 Mar 2010 16:41:57 +0000 (UTC) To: emacs-devel@gnu.org Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Mon Mar 22 17:41:53 2010 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([199.232.76.165]) by lo.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1NtkhL-0001zg-Qj for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Mon, 22 Mar 2010 17:41:52 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:34572 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1NtkhL-0006d1-92 for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Mon, 22 Mar 2010 12:41:51 -0400 Original-Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1Ntkfg-0005rV-Lx for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Mon, 22 Mar 2010 12:40:08 -0400 Original-Received: from [140.186.70.92] (port=59341 helo=eggs.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1Ntkfe-0005qA-Sb for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Mon, 22 Mar 2010 12:40:08 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1Ntkfd-0005sr-2Y for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Mon, 22 Mar 2010 12:40:06 -0400 Original-Received: from lo.gmane.org ([80.91.229.12]:50004) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1Ntkfc-0005sQ-KY for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Mon, 22 Mar 2010 12:40:05 -0400 Original-Received: from list by lo.gmane.org with local (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1Ntkfb-0000nQ-DS for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Mon, 22 Mar 2010 17:40:03 +0100 Original-Received: from 38.98.147.130 ([38.98.147.130]) by main.gmane.org with esmtp (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Mon, 22 Mar 2010 17:40:03 +0100 Original-Received: from tzz by 38.98.147.130 with local (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Mon, 22 Mar 2010 17:40:03 +0100 X-Injected-Via-Gmane: http://gmane.org/ Original-Lines: 31 Original-X-Complaints-To: usenet@dough.gmane.org X-Gmane-NNTP-Posting-Host: 38.98.147.130 X-Face: bd.DQ~'29fIs`T_%O%C\g%6jW)yi[zuz6; d4V0`@y-~$#3P_Ng{@m+e4o<4P'#(_GJQ%TT= D}[Ep*b!\e,fBZ'j_+#"Ps?s2!4H2-Y"sx" User-Agent: Gnus/5.110011 (No Gnus v0.11) Emacs/23.1.91 (gnu/linux) Cancel-Lock: sha1:2r7bJ7rmRJ7JvpIYYLkYbjm2IJU= X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.6 (newer, 3) X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:122488 Archived-At: On Mon, 22 Mar 2010 12:09:36 -0400 Stefan Monnier wrote: SM> All packages bundled with Emacs (i.e. all those found by finder.el) are SM> already installed and activated. >> I thought it would make sense to link what package.el will manage into >> finder.el and other Emacs facilities, so this would no longer be true. >> finder.el would show (clearly marked regarding their state and repo >> origin) available, installed, and activated packages; there would also >> be a way from there to install and activate a package, either internally >> or through a link to the package.el UI. Do you disagree with that >> proposal? SM> I'm not opposed to it, but just pointing out that currently they do SM> things that are quite different, since finder.el lets you find things SM> among the installed&activated packages, whereas package.el lets you find SM> things among the nonactivated&noninstalled packages and lets you SM> activate&|install them. OK. I'll delay this discussion until package.el is integrated. SM> AFAIK the urgent thing is to add the ability to install several version SM> of a package and then separately to choose which one to activate in SM> a given session. SM> And then to install package.el (the paperwork from other contributors SM> can even come later since those contributions aren't needed for those SM> features anyway). I'll start on that work in my free time. Ted