From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Walter Alejandro Iglesias Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: The copyright issue Date: Fri, 13 Aug 2010 17:52:22 +0200 Message-ID: <87zkwq7bnt.fsf@roquesor.com> References: <19546.32875.515000.117266@gargle.gargle.HOWL> <4C5BF992.9050909@online.de> NNTP-Posting-Host: lo.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Trace: dough.gmane.org 1281714819 20514 80.91.229.12 (13 Aug 2010 15:53:39 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@dough.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Fri, 13 Aug 2010 15:53:39 +0000 (UTC) To: emacs-devel@gnu.org Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Fri Aug 13 17:53:37 2010 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([199.232.76.165]) by lo.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1OjwZd-0007tm-6w for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Fri, 13 Aug 2010 17:53:37 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:36767 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1OjwZc-0005mq-Ls for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Fri, 13 Aug 2010 11:53:36 -0400 Original-Received: from [140.186.70.92] (port=49373 helo=eggs.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1OjwYg-0005Fq-9a for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Fri, 13 Aug 2010 11:52:39 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1OjwYb-0006tm-QL for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Fri, 13 Aug 2010 11:52:38 -0400 Original-Received: from lo.gmane.org ([80.91.229.12]:58356) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1OjwYb-0006tf-FM for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Fri, 13 Aug 2010 11:52:33 -0400 Original-Received: from list by lo.gmane.org with local (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1OjwYa-0007Mg-Qf for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Fri, 13 Aug 2010 17:52:32 +0200 Original-Received: from 95.120.70.151 ([95.120.70.151]) by main.gmane.org with esmtp (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Fri, 13 Aug 2010 17:52:32 +0200 Original-Received: from eloi by 95.120.70.151 with local (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Fri, 13 Aug 2010 17:52:32 +0200 X-Injected-Via-Gmane: http://gmane.org/ Original-Lines: 58 Original-X-Complaints-To: usenet@dough.gmane.org X-Gmane-NNTP-Posting-Host: 95.120.70.151 User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/24.0.50 (gnu/linux) Cancel-Lock: sha1:citwPt8+g0CGvTlRkS4tnWCqrwk= X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.6 (newer, 3) X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:128612 Archived-At: Andreas Röhler writes: > Am 06.08.2010 13:25, schrieb Deniz Dogan: >> 2010/8/6 Juanma Barranquero: >> >>> On Fri, Aug 6, 2010 at 10:37, Stuart Hacking wrote: >>> >>> >>>> * One day we'll live in a perfect world where everyone runs GNU/Linux, >>>> >>> Of couse not! In a perfect world everyone would run GNU/Hurd... >>> >>> >> In a perfect world everyone would run free software. >> >> > > As it's written: Once the lamb sleeps beneath the lion - but all > people have to (do what ?) ;-) Utopia, perfection, freedom. Static concepts. Products. People pay for comfort. Pay, for example, for an OS where "popular" software-hardware works out of the box. Some day this software-hardware is outdated, it is not popular anymore. So, everybody trashes it and buys a new one. Don't think, "Just do it". Don't ask yourself why to do this of that, why you've done what you've done along your life. Be pragmatic, be concrete, be specific. Think in something new. Be like another transmission gear in the machine. Do you think you are special? :) Myopia and statistics say this way of life works. Recursively, it is working because it is popular. People pay for an ideology, pay for a way of life, pay for a concept, in the same way they pay for an OS and this dress that use that actress in that box-office hit film. Don't think, it is bad for your health, it wrinkles your brow. People comfortably live in this kind of world because they lack of genuine ambition. Their ambition is as irrational as hungry; traduced to software marketing their hungry ask for "new look and more features". But don't take it literally, whatever shit imitating the look and feel and promising the same new features of this product for which a big company put millions in marketing. So, put them in a perfect world (a world with no past and no future) and they will ask you for more. More shit. By the way, has someone understood 'tit for tat' Linus Torvald's argument? Does Linus really knows why he chose GPL? Was really he who chose GPL or somebody else convinced him with the argument that it would be the better way LINUX get popular? People like chocolates, candy, cars, video games, freedom...