From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: David Kastrup Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: C-d deleting region considered harmful Date: Mon, 20 Sep 2010 08:59:09 +0200 Organization: Organization?!? Message-ID: <87zkvc3npe.fsf@lola.goethe.zz> References: <87eicrx1ls.fsf@catnip.gol.com> <4C94E03D.8090002@gmail.com> <87fwx699pc.fsf@catnip.gol.com> <83tylmyclx.fsf@gnu.org> <4C961787.3090907@gmail.com> <878w2xsigj.fsf@gmail.com> <87zkvd5hwa.fsf@catnip.gol.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: lo.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-Trace: dough.gmane.org 1284965989 28369 80.91.229.12 (20 Sep 2010 06:59:49 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@dough.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Mon, 20 Sep 2010 06:59:49 +0000 (UTC) To: emacs-devel@gnu.org Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Mon Sep 20 08:59:48 2010 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([199.232.76.165]) by lo.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1OxaLr-0002Hb-Am for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Mon, 20 Sep 2010 08:59:47 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:59167 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1OxaLq-0002Jg-EY for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Mon, 20 Sep 2010 02:59:46 -0400 Original-Received: from [140.186.70.92] (port=38355 helo=eggs.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1OxaLe-0002Hz-UB for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Mon, 20 Sep 2010 02:59:38 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1OxaLa-0004nV-5n for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Mon, 20 Sep 2010 02:59:34 -0400 Original-Received: from lo.gmane.org ([80.91.229.12]:49395) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1OxaLa-0004nQ-08 for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Mon, 20 Sep 2010 02:59:30 -0400 Original-Received: from list by lo.gmane.org with local (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1OxaLY-0002DL-Fq for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Mon, 20 Sep 2010 08:59:28 +0200 Original-Received: from p508eacdd.dip.t-dialin.net ([80.142.172.221]) by main.gmane.org with esmtp (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Mon, 20 Sep 2010 08:59:28 +0200 Original-Received: from dak by p508eacdd.dip.t-dialin.net with local (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Mon, 20 Sep 2010 08:59:28 +0200 X-Injected-Via-Gmane: http://gmane.org/ Original-Lines: 21 Original-X-Complaints-To: usenet@dough.gmane.org X-Gmane-NNTP-Posting-Host: p508eacdd.dip.t-dialin.net X-Face: 2FEFf>]>q>2iw=B6, xrUubRI>pR&Ml9=ao@P@i)L:\urd*t9M~y1^:+Y]'C0~{mAl`oQuAl \!3KEIp?*w`|bL5qr,H)LFO6Q=qx~iH4DN; i"; /yuIsqbLLCh/!U#X[S~(5eZ41to5f%E@'ELIi$t^ Vc\LWP@J5p^rst0+('>Er0=^1{]M9!p?&:\z]|;&=NP3AhB!B_bi^]Pfkw User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/24.0.50 (gnu/linux) Cancel-Lock: sha1:6z2cLIqQ4xgaTE4JPFkXgNyU51k= X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.6 (newer, 3) X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:130520 Archived-At: Miles Bader writes: > Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen writes: >>> However I've been annoyed quite few times when it highlights the region >>> when I don't want it. C-x C-x being a primal example (yes, I understand >>> that it's a change in semantics). >> >> Perhaps `C-x C-x' is the prime annoyance factor here? It certainly was >> for me. Perhaps it just shouldn't activate the transient mark mode? > > Not a good idea, I think, since one of the primary uses of C-x C-x is to > re-activate the region! [for me about 90% of the time I think...] If you just want to reactivate the region, the proper keysequence to do only that and nothing else would be C-x C-x C-x C-x (otherwise you also move point). So one could make this reactivate only on second call (like C-SPC does). On the other hand, C-x C-x C-x C-x is often used for checking "did I leave the mark just where intended?". -- David Kastrup