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From: "Stephen J. Turnbull" <stephen@xemacs.org>
To: Thien-Thi Nguyen <ttn@gnuvola.org>
Cc: emacs-devel@gnu.org
Subject: Re: emacs lisp syntax rfc: (cond (EXPR => (lambda (X) ...)))
Date: Wed, 05 Jan 2011 13:16:51 +0900	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <87zkrggf2k.fsf@uwakimon.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <87tyhot4q4.fsf@ambire.localdomain>

Thien-Thi Nguyen writes:

 > Sure, why not?  Good fences make good neighbors, and the price
 > of this flexible neighborliness (or neighborly flexibility) is
 > syntax.
 > 
 > (cond
 >   ((integerp x) => #'-)             ; takes value
 >   ((not (listp x)) 42)              ; traditional
 >   ((cdr x) => #'car)                ; takes value
 >   ((car x)                          ; takes value, unnecessarily
 >    => (lambda (head)
 >         (code that ignores ; head
 >          oh well
 >          life goes on))))

Well, it makes me want to gag, that's all. ;-)  I would not mix the
two, though (if the change is approved) you are welcome to do so.
After all, if you want the very occasional constant,

    (applicating-cond
      ((integerp x)  #'-)               ; takes value
      ((not (listp x)) (lambda (y) 42)) ; constant function of 1 arg
      ((cdr x)  #'car)                  ; takes value
      ((car x)                          ; takes value, 'cause that's how
       (lambda (head)                   ; applicating-cond works, OK?
         (code that ignores ; head
          oh well
          life goes on))))

Or (this is pretty disgusting, too) applicating-cond could check for
(functionp (cadr clause)), and call the function on the result of (car
clause) if that is non-nil, otherwise, return the value.  I suppose
'#'car would make it possible to return #'car in that case.

 > - Use a number to encode arity.
 >   N (EXPR N-ARY-FUNC)
 > 
 > I think the last one is too strange, personally, but there it is.

The expansion could also use apply instead of funcall, so that the
function can be any-ary.



  reply	other threads:[~2011-01-05  4:16 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 26+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2011-01-02 21:45 emacs lisp syntax rfc: (cond (EXPR => (lambda (X) ...))) Thien-Thi Nguyen
2011-01-02 21:57 ` Fren Zeee
2011-01-02 22:00   ` Fwd: " Fren Zeee
2011-01-02 22:52 ` Harald Hanche-Olsen
2011-01-04 16:41   ` Thien-Thi Nguyen
2011-01-04 17:56     ` Harald Hanche-Olsen
2011-01-04 18:39       ` Thien-Thi Nguyen
2011-01-03  2:19 ` Stefan Monnier
2011-01-04 17:00   ` Thien-Thi Nguyen
2011-01-03 16:15 ` Richard Stallman
2011-01-04 18:12   ` Thien-Thi Nguyen
2011-01-05  1:55     ` Stephen J. Turnbull
2011-01-05  3:21       ` Thien-Thi Nguyen
2011-01-05  4:16         ` Stephen J. Turnbull [this message]
2011-01-05  5:15           ` Miles Bader
2011-01-05 21:29     ` Stefan Monnier
2011-01-05 22:40       ` Harald Hanche-Olsen
2011-01-06  0:10         ` Stefan Monnier
2011-01-06  8:24           ` Helmut Eller
2011-01-07  3:49             ` Stefan Monnier
2011-01-06 18:43         ` Richard Stallman
2011-01-05 23:36     ` Richard Stallman
2011-01-11 17:20       ` Andy Wingo
2011-01-05  5:17 ` Miles Bader
  -- strict thread matches above, loose matches on Subject: below --
2011-01-03  5:37 MON KEY
2011-01-04 17:20 ` Thien-Thi Nguyen

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