From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Reuben Thomas Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.bugs Subject: bug#8492: 23.3; Time to use a different binding for completion? 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Wed, 13 Apr 2011 10:26:19 -0700 (PDT) X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.6, seldom 2.4 (older, 4) X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.6 (newer, 3) X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.11 Precedence: list Resent-Date: Wed, 13 Apr 2011 13:27:02 -0400 X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.6 (newer, 3) X-Received-From: 140.186.70.43 X-BeenThere: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org List-Id: "Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.bugs:45793 Archived-At: Emacs binds various completion functions to M-Tab, which is already used by many window managers, including Compiz and Metacity, i.e. the WMs one is likely to use on a modern GNU system, for switching between open windows. Is it therefore time to admit defeat and find an alternative binding for completion functions, even if it=E2=80=99s an extra binding rather than sim= ply a different one? In GNU Emacs 23.3.2 (i686-pc-linux-gnu, GTK+ Version 2.22.0) of 2011-03-02 on canta Windowing system distributor `The X.Org Foundation', version 11.0.10900000 Important settings: value of $LC_ALL: nil value of $LC_COLLATE: nil value of $LC_CTYPE: nil value of $LC_MESSAGES: nil value of $LC_MONETARY: nil value of $LC_NUMERIC: nil value of $LC_TIME: nil value of $LANG: en_GB.UTF-8 value of $XMODIFIERS: nil locale-coding-system: utf-8-unix default enable-multibyte-characters: t Major mode: Javascript/nxhtml Minor modes in effect: nxml-where-marks: t nxml-where-tag+id: t nxml-where-header: t shell-dirtrack-mode: t show-paren-mode: t savehist-mode: t minibuffer-electric-default-mode: t iswitchb-mode: t icomplete-mode: t global-whitespace-mode: t global-auto-revert-mode: t nxhtml-menu-mode: t nxhtml-tag-do-also: t popcmp-group-alternatives: t popcmp-short-help-beside-alts: t mlinks-active-links: t rngalt-minimal-validation-header: t rngalt-display-validation-header: t desktop-save-mode: t flyspell-mode: t recentf-mode: t mouse-wheel-mode: t file-name-shadow-mode: t global-font-lock-mode: t font-lock-mode: t blink-cursor-mode: t auto-encryption-mode: t auto-compression-mode: t column-number-mode: t line-number-mode: t transient-mark-mode: t Recent input: t m l - w e b - =20 v c s =20 =20 C-g =20 M-x w e b - c v s - =20 v b c s n x =20 3 y C-c C-c C-c C-c C-c C-c C-c C-c C-c C-c C-c C-c=20 C-x 0 =20 =20 C-x b n i n =20 i n d e =20 =20 =20 =20 =20 =20 =20 =20 =20 =20 =20 =20 M-x x m n x m=20 l =3D - c o m =20 - - c o m p l e t e =20 C-g =20 C-x 1 M-x =20 M-x =20 y =20 M-< M-x r e p o=20 r t =3D - b - =20 - e m a c s - b u g Recent messages: XHTML validation header that sets the DTD to XHTML. This will not be inserted in the buffer but completion and XHTML validation will assume it is there so both error checking and completion will work. Do you want to add a fictive XHTML validation header? 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