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From: "Stephen J. Turnbull" <stephen@xemacs.org>
To: Eli Zaretskii <eliz@gnu.org>
Cc: "Richard M. Heiberger" <rmh@temple.edu>,
	cschol2112@googlemail.com, emacs-devel@gnu.org
Subject: Re: [h-e-w] Emacs 24.0.93 Pretest Windows Binaries published
Date: Fri, 03 Feb 2012 19:03:29 +0900	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <87zkd0z11q.fsf@uwakimon.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <8362fofi8h.fsf@gnu.org>

Eli Zaretskii writes:

 > You are right: this is a false alarm.  Let Symantec people know about
 > it, and ask them to get their act together.

That's hopeless, especially since we're now up to about 3 maybe 4 such
false alarms (ie, from different Wolf-Crying Peter companies).

(1) They'll say "better safe than sorry," and guess what? they're
    right! (as far as that goes, see (2)).

(2) It's impossible for anybody but Microsoft to truly get the act
    together, because the 3rd party virus checkers have to look for
    "signatures" in the content.  This is so that software whose whole
    selling point is "you don't need to know squat to use this because
    it's all automatic" can continue to oh-so-conveniently
    automatically run pretty much anything you download off the
    InterSewer.  False positives are pretty much inevitable with this
    technology.

And they're only going to only become more common, since viruses are
proliferating at the rate of what, about 1000 new variants a day?

I think you're just going to have to grin and bear this, because the
only alternative that's acceptable to the vast majority of Windows
customers is not safe 'nets, it's what Richard likes to call
"treacherous computing".  Let's pray that that does not become The
Final Solution.

But maybe Ted Z and GnuTLS can save the day.  GnuTLS is universally
applicable security for the network I hear! ;-)



  reply	other threads:[~2012-02-03 10:03 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 61+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2012-01-30  2:02 Emacs 24.0.93 Pretest Windows Binaries published Christoph Scholtes
2012-01-30  4:55 ` Drew Adams
2012-01-30 17:47   ` Eli Zaretskii
2012-01-30 18:17     ` [h-e-w] " Drew Adams
2012-01-30 18:57       ` Eli Zaretskii
2012-01-30 19:08         ` Drew Adams
2012-01-30 19:09           ` Eli Zaretskii
2012-01-30 18:49     ` Eli Zaretskii
2012-01-31 14:03   ` Christoph Scholtes
2012-01-31 14:15     ` Drew Adams
2012-02-02 19:22       ` Ted Zlatanov
2012-02-02 19:52         ` Drew Adams
2012-02-02 21:46           ` Ted Zlatanov
2012-02-02 22:05             ` Drew Adams
2012-02-03 13:26               ` Ted Zlatanov
2012-02-03  7:48             ` Eli Zaretskii
2012-02-03 13:23               ` GnuTLS invasion of Emacs (was: Emacs 24.0.93 Pretest Windows Binaries published) Ted Zlatanov
2012-02-03 16:29                 ` GnuTLS invasion of Emacs published) Eli Zaretskii
2012-02-03 16:51                   ` Ted Zlatanov
2012-02-09 14:16                     ` need help with certificate bundles for ALL the platforms Emacs supports (was: GnuTLS invasion of Emacs published)) Ted Zlatanov
2012-02-09 18:53                       ` Eli Zaretskii
2012-02-10 13:06                         ` need help with certificate bundles for ALL the platforms Emacs supports Ted Zlatanov
2012-02-10 15:51                           ` Eli Zaretskii
2012-02-10 16:37                             ` Ted Zlatanov
2012-02-11 17:22                               ` Andy Moreton
2012-02-11 17:45                                 ` Eli Zaretskii
2012-02-12  2:43                                   ` Ted Zlatanov
2012-02-12  4:05                                     ` Eli Zaretskii
2012-02-12 13:36                                       ` Ted Zlatanov
2012-02-13 10:29                                     ` Andy Moreton
2012-02-13 13:15                                       ` Ted Zlatanov
2012-02-10 17:11                       ` Ted Zlatanov
2012-02-10 18:57                         ` Stefan Monnier
2012-02-12 22:13                           ` Ted Zlatanov
2012-02-13  3:28                             ` Stefan Monnier
2012-02-13 13:24                               ` Ted Zlatanov
2012-02-13 15:12                                 ` Stefan Monnier
2012-02-13 16:30                                   ` Ted Zlatanov
2012-02-13 21:04                                     ` Stefan Monnier
2012-02-13 21:54                                       ` Ted Zlatanov
2012-02-13 21:55                                         ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2012-02-13 22:20                                         ` Stefan Monnier
2012-02-14  0:05                                           ` Ted Zlatanov
2012-02-14  2:13                                             ` Stefan Monnier
2012-02-14  2:32                             ` Glenn Morris
2012-02-14 13:01                               ` Ted Zlatanov
2012-02-03 13:25               ` Emacs 24.0.93 Pretest Windows Binaries published Stefan Monnier
2012-02-03  0:48 ` [h-e-w] " Richard M. Heiberger
2012-02-03  8:12   ` Eli Zaretskii
2012-02-03 10:03     ` Stephen J. Turnbull [this message]
2012-02-03 10:31       ` Eli Zaretskii
2012-02-03 13:49         ` Stephen J. Turnbull
2012-02-03 15:44           ` Eli Zaretskii
2012-02-12  4:04             ` Lennart Borgman
2012-02-12  4:08               ` Lennart Borgman
2012-02-12 16:23                 ` Eli Zaretskii
2012-02-12 22:19                   ` Lennart Borgman
2012-02-13  3:29                     ` Stefan Monnier
2012-02-13  3:51                     ` Eli Zaretskii
2012-02-13 19:23                       ` Lennart Borgman
2012-02-14 22:43                 ` Lennart Borgman

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