From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: "Stephen J. Turnbull" Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: Tabs are ready? -> Let us give a definition of tabs. Date: Wed, 08 Feb 2012 00:57:04 +0900 Message-ID: <87zkcuy6un.fsf@uwakimon.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp> References: <4F2E5D33.6020406@gmx.at> <4F2E8185.4080706@gmx.at> <4F2EC73A.8020905@gmx.at> <4F2FACF8.2040304@gmx.at> <4F3007E8.6090209@gmx.at> <87liofhir9.fsf@spindle.srvr.nix> NNTP-Posting-Host: plane.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 X-Trace: dough.gmane.org 1328630580 1183 80.91.229.3 (7 Feb 2012 16:03:00 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@dough.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Tue, 7 Feb 2012 16:03:00 +0000 (UTC) Cc: Juri Linkov , martin rudalics , Emacs Dev , Alin Soare , Juanma Barranquero To: Nix Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Tue Feb 07 17:02:55 2012 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([140.186.70.17]) by plane.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1RunVL-00060G-G7 for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Tue, 07 Feb 2012 17:02:52 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:47075 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1RunQ6-00013u-LP for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Tue, 07 Feb 2012 10:57:26 -0500 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([140.186.70.92]:45375) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1RunPz-00013C-Od for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Tue, 07 Feb 2012 10:57:25 -0500 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1RunPu-0000zl-3X for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Tue, 07 Feb 2012 10:57:19 -0500 Original-Received: from mgmt2.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp ([130.158.97.224]:56913) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1RunPt-0000yt-Ms for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Tue, 07 Feb 2012 10:57:14 -0500 Original-Received: from uwakimon.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp (uwakimon.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp [130.158.99.156]) by mgmt2.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp (Postfix) with ESMTP id 10576970633; Wed, 8 Feb 2012 00:57:05 +0900 (JST) Original-Received: by uwakimon.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp (Postfix, from userid 1000) id D275B1A282A; Wed, 8 Feb 2012 00:57:04 +0900 (JST) In-Reply-To: <87liofhir9.fsf@spindle.srvr.nix> X-Mailer: VM undefined under 21.5 (beta31) "ginger" e6b5c49f9e13 XEmacs Lucid (x86_64-unknown-linux) X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.6 (newer, 3) X-Received-From: 130.158.97.224 X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:148303 Archived-At: Nix writes: > I don't know. I'd actually very much like a set of per-window tabs which > recorded not a single buffer per tab but an entire window-configuration > per tab. It would make a nice user interface for things like winring.el. I agree with this to a point. The sticking point is that to me the tab metaphor is about controlling what's displayed in a given region (usually rectangular, always of constant shape and size) of the screen. I would be disconcerted if clicking a tab caused the frame to resize. Or the Emacs window, for that matter. I don't have a problem (conceptually) with a frame being divided into windows, each of which holds a (sub?) window configuration. In any case, a quick and dirty implementation should not be hard, as long as you let the window configuration associated with a tab drive the frame geometry (who cares if Steve is disconcerted? ;-) The refinements would be to deal with (a) constraining the window configurations allowed and (b) constructing a "normalized" (adapted to the tab's preferred geometry) configuration.