From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Lars Ingebrigtsen Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: The emacs_backtrace "feature" Date: Mon, 24 Sep 2012 16:27:15 +0200 Message-ID: <87zk4fmr7g.fsf@gnus.org> References: <83lig3yaci.fsf@gnu.org> NNTP-Posting-Host: plane.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1348501896 10992 80.91.229.3 (24 Sep 2012 15:51:36 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Mon, 24 Sep 2012 15:51:36 +0000 (UTC) Cc: Eli Zaretskii , emacs-devel@gnu.org To: rms@gnu.org Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Mon Sep 24 17:51:39 2012 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([208.118.235.17]) by plane.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1TGAwZ-0001tI-Fl for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Mon, 24 Sep 2012 17:51:35 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:36202 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1TGAwU-0004rb-H3 for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Mon, 24 Sep 2012 11:51:30 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([208.118.235.92]:41751) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1TG9dS-0000R7-CX for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Mon, 24 Sep 2012 10:27:47 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1TG9dI-0007HK-HY for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Mon, 24 Sep 2012 10:27:46 -0400 Original-Received: from hermes.netfonds.no ([80.91.224.195]:38144) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1TG9dI-0007F3-Ac; Mon, 24 Sep 2012 10:27:36 -0400 Original-Received: from cm-84.215.51.58.getinternet.no ([84.215.51.58] helo=rusty) by hermes.netfonds.no with esmtpsa (TLS1.0:DHE_RSA_AES_128_CBC_SHA1:16) (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1TG9cx-0002Go-PW; Mon, 24 Sep 2012 16:27:15 +0200 X-Now-Playing: Winston Tong's _Theoretically Chinese_ In-Reply-To: (Richard Stallman's message of "Fri, 21 Sep 2012 17:40:39 -0400") User-Agent: Gnus/5.130006 (Ma Gnus v0.6) Emacs/24.2.50 (gnu/linux) X-MailScanner-ID: 1TG9cx-0002Go-PW MailScanner-NULL-Check: 1349101635.85571@MI3xYZKY6GsbuFOGtfp+Xg X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: Genre and OS details not recognized. X-Received-From: 80.91.224.195 X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:153515 Archived-At: Richard Stallman writes: > I tend to agree with you, and perhaps the backtrace should > be directed to a specific disk file rather than to standard error. I agree. The current "let's just spew out reams of nearly meaningless data to the terminal" methodology isn't very useful. -- (domestic pets only, the antidote for overdose, milk.) http://lars.ingebrigtsen.no * Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen