From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Thorsten Jolitz Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.help Subject: Re: How does the Meta/Alt-Key work behind the scenes? Date: Wed, 31 Oct 2012 17:24:04 +0100 Message-ID: <87zk32vcd7.fsf@googlemail.com> References: NNTP-Posting-Host: plane.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1351700679 16966 80.91.229.3 (31 Oct 2012 16:24:39 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Wed, 31 Oct 2012 16:24:39 +0000 (UTC) To: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Original-X-From: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Wed Oct 31 17:24:46 2012 Return-path: Envelope-to: geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([208.118.235.17]) by plane.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1TTb5x-0005uM-V7 for geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Wed, 31 Oct 2012 17:24:46 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:58415 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1TTb5p-0000WL-If for geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Wed, 31 Oct 2012 12:24:37 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([208.118.235.92]:52637) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1TTb5f-0000Rk-H2 for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Wed, 31 Oct 2012 12:24:31 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1TTb5b-0006AK-42 for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Wed, 31 Oct 2012 12:24:27 -0400 Original-Received: from plane.gmane.org ([80.91.229.3]:54979) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1TTb5a-00069o-UX for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Wed, 31 Oct 2012 12:24:23 -0400 Original-Received: from list by plane.gmane.org with local (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1TTb5f-0005QN-2S for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Wed, 31 Oct 2012 17:24:27 +0100 Original-Received: from e178055183.adsl.alicedsl.de ([85.178.55.183]) by main.gmane.org with esmtp (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Wed, 31 Oct 2012 17:24:27 +0100 Original-Received: from tjolitz by e178055183.adsl.alicedsl.de with local (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Wed, 31 Oct 2012 17:24:27 +0100 X-Injected-Via-Gmane: http://gmane.org/ Original-Lines: 23 Original-X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org X-Gmane-NNTP-Posting-Host: e178055183.adsl.alicedsl.de User-Agent: Gnus/5.130002 (Ma Gnus v0.2) Emacs/24.0.93 (gnu/linux) Cancel-Lock: sha1:ZR+pTAq/oYSnOCCH6g2KORjEz9A= X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: Genre and OS details not recognized. X-Received-From: 80.91.229.3 X-BeenThere: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: Users list for the GNU Emacs text editor List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.help:87505 Archived-At: Stefan Monnier writes: >> However, I was told to hardcode the Meta/Alt-Keybindings as ESC-key >> sequences, e.g. '^[', wait 500, then 'f', so that they can either be >> used as 'ALT-f' or as 'ESC f'. But only the latter (very uncomfortable) >> option works for me, and any keybindings that include the SHIFT key >> don't work at all. > > What does "don't work" mean? Maybe I asked to early since further testing revealed that it is not a general problem but a problem of some keys only: When I use 'C-%' (^% = C-S-5 on my keyboard) which should execute the command 'go to next parenthesis' then in xterm '%' is (self)inserted, on the console nothing happens. But 'C-_' (^_ = C-S-- on my keyboard) executes 'undo' as expected in xterm and on the console. So I would like to withdraw my question for now - sorry for the noise. -- cheers, Thorsten