From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Ivan Kanis Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: develop an emacs library Date: Fri, 15 Mar 2013 21:18:05 +0100 Message-ID: <87zjy4l8n6.fsf@kanis.fr> References: <87zjy5st3t.fsf@kanis.fr> NNTP-Posting-Host: plane.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1363378695 26471 80.91.229.3 (15 Mar 2013 20:18:15 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Fri, 15 Mar 2013 20:18:15 +0000 (UTC) Cc: emacs-devel@gnu.org To: Richard Stallman Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Fri Mar 15 21:18:40 2013 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([208.118.235.17]) by plane.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1UGb5L-0002Ix-Ax for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Fri, 15 Mar 2013 21:18:39 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:55732 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1UGb4y-0004MQ-L0 for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Fri, 15 Mar 2013 16:18:16 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([208.118.235.92]:36539) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1UGb4t-0004IU-RZ for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Fri, 15 Mar 2013 16:18:14 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1UGb4r-00022h-BQ for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Fri, 15 Mar 2013 16:18:11 -0400 Original-Received: from smtp.kanis.fr ([164.138.25.8]:37082 helo=kanis.fr) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1UGb4r-00022d-5m; Fri, 15 Mar 2013 16:18:09 -0400 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; q=dns/txt; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=kanis.fr; s=alpha; h=Content-Type:MIME-Version:Message-ID:Date:References:Subject:Cc:To:From; bh=msMqic8NzLw5Ij+BmRxnb3ibkuLq6eK+m2IGIXwLNBA=; b=nlmfYdflYsLysQYd6zhQ6XtZDJkcSC+Y0awWbZYO/NwvQnq+U3Cb0r5GpHcRhXSFRpX7sJxWw7dFzNRShVGQUBHjZpKwTanS4wqYbTo894nBab1u25GPNMthY29NPxFK; Original-Received: from smtp.comencini.fr ([164.138.25.8]) by smtp.comencini.fr with esmtpsa (TLS1.1:DHE_RSA_AES_128_CBC_SHA1:128) (Exim 4.80.1) (envelope-from ) id 1UGb4q-00044s-EL; Fri, 15 Mar 2013 21:18:08 +0100 Face: iVBORw0KGgoAAAANSUhEUgAAADAAAAAwBAMAAAClLOS0AAAAAXNSR0IArs4c6QAAAB5QTFRF IBkXUxMTOCwoTC4qcUY8iFxQmmper31txpaJ/v/8aKZ1oAAAAcVJREFUOMt100tu2zAQAFDCXnUZ oAcIqG68LZULVLQBbwuSiffm6AIRRyeotAySJoVu2+FPpJWWC3/4NKOZocSW/yxWfnJ2+Bdwzhj7 8gleWVy7DXC2rkMNr2V/zRbghXIwthf3VbIA9Ffc71vZCSFyCEsBggtNS8ludwvfmhYA0Vn9o4DP zMWxR7+cPWzAYFzwM0ModtdmcDbDS6i/hT7L+RZof5yCXGrYe5jn2YO6BYMjgY+51tCIAqHgBLwR pwLnGuRjAKyBJkuN4yd4U92uCY1vUr2D/c5b8DuxyQwfOHUeaLqDJhnkkuGXbB56h2C1IVBdgncc bBi6feroa9B6jUDojnQPQKupbyXyeeCE1oT7Oqrt+SnfY3mkiyGA/3AmD3H5g32CcBx6hY8pRkwJ 9PpcjRGobUfprFnhAa1vepwcgMOhwG+pdSgKHFU9HAvoAH6XUl7lDUCCq5Qb6GMbVm3Aj++qDYCt wdBc/YHgOFCmS3mjDMRcSE2qY4E3Q3PVIQRQmeodNH4QEbRUFZzW+VotzwX4yTcRTySOML1qjcE5 hTirVqDHkMAP0PjAywp3d18JZtqzvr9zDYD+GaSKtE6Zlr/DLPNFmOcvBAAAAABJRU5ErkJggg== X-Hashcash: 1:20:130315:rms@gnu.org::9xWEjW13+YozKxkQ:0000004pQn X-Hashcash: 1:20:130315:emacs-devel@gnu.org::905zmOnvdcsZwxsa:0000000000000000000000000000000000000000004sLh User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/24.3.50 (gnu/linux) X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 3.x X-Received-From: 164.138.25.8 X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:157895 Archived-At: March, 14 at 18:30 Richard wrote: > This might create vulnerabilities to sneaking around the GPL, > so please don't. I understand your concern. However I have worked making proprietary software (I know, I know, one has to make a living) for many years now. For the last 15 years I have been told not to use GPL including LGPL libraries. Why do you think a commercial company would use a elisp library? Every commercial programmers I know write in C++, Java or C# these days. They are too busy to try anything else. Should we limit ourselves (here I include myself as a hobby free developer) in fear that a company would use it? It is easy to shoot and idea and I feel your stance is unfair. -- For every person who wants to teach there are approximately thirty who don't want to learn - much. -- W.C. Sellar and R.J. Yeatman