From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Miles Bader Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: Rename `eww' to `web' Date: Mon, 01 Jul 2013 11:03:40 +0900 Message-ID: <87zju7aver.fsf@catnip.gol.com> References: > <86wqpdq768.fsf@ferrier.me.uk> NNTP-Posting-Host: plane.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1372644232 5584 80.91.229.3 (1 Jul 2013 02:03:52 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Mon, 1 Jul 2013 02:03:52 +0000 (UTC) Cc: rms@gnu.org, Drew Adams , emacs-devel@gnu.org To: Nic Ferrier Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Mon Jul 01 04:03:52 2013 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([208.118.235.17]) by plane.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1UtTT5-0004dn-WD for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Mon, 01 Jul 2013 04:03:52 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:51943 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1UtTT5-0004VM-9v for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Sun, 30 Jun 2013 22:03:51 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::10]:48031) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1UtTT1-0004UL-GU for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sun, 30 Jun 2013 22:03:48 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1UtTT0-0004gN-IM for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sun, 30 Jun 2013 22:03:47 -0400 Original-Received: from smtp01.dentaku.gol.com ([203.216.5.71]:54215) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1UtTT0-0004gC-9u; Sun, 30 Jun 2013 22:03:46 -0400 Original-Received: from 218.231.149.135.eo.eaccess.ne.jp ([218.231.149.135] helo=catnip.gol.com) by smtp01.dentaku.gol.com with esmtpa (Dentaku) (envelope-from ) id 1UtTSw-0007UG-49; Mon, 01 Jul 2013 11:03:43 +0900 Original-Received: by catnip.gol.com (Postfix, from userid 1000) id DE6DFE039; Mon, 1 Jul 2013 11:03:40 +0900 (JST) System-Type: x86_64-unknown-linux-gnu In-Reply-To: <86wqpdq768.fsf@ferrier.me.uk> (Nic Ferrier's message of "Sat, 29 Jun 2013 16:15:59 +0100") Original-Lines: 30 X-Virus-Scanned: ClamAV GOL (outbound) X-GOL-Spam-Score: -1.0 X-Abuse-Complaints: abuse@gol.com X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 3.x X-Received-From: 203.216.5.71 X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:161392 Archived-At: Nic Ferrier writes: > Wait a second. > > I already have an HTTP client called web. > > So it would be a little unfair to just pinch the name? It would be perfectly "fair." If you use a highly generic name for a package, you shouldn't be surprised when somebody else uses the same name, and there's little justification for feeling wronged by it. For that reason, it's obviously a bad idea to choose highly generic names for packages... [See the whole stupid mess with "*Step" and their apps called "Terminal", etc... >< Sure that made sense in a highly controlled closed ecosystem; it makes zero sense in a shared open ecosystem.] *However*, such names are desirable for the user when they want to just start the app. So the most practical thing to do seems to be use non-generic names for packages and specific apps ("eww"), and generic names for shared thin invocation layers [e.g. the simple (defalias 'web 'eww) dicussed before]. -miles -- Would you like fries with that?