From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: "Stephen J. Turnbull" Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: "Adobe Brackets like" editing in emacs Date: Thu, 20 Mar 2014 01:20:37 +0900 Message-ID: <87zjkmi2i2.fsf@uwakimon.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp> References: <87txaukeia.fsf@uwakimon.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp> <95BBC5A0-61E9-43CC-8B4D-563A7873EB32@gmail.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: plane.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1395246052 26986 80.91.229.3 (19 Mar 2014 16:20:52 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Wed, 19 Mar 2014 16:20:52 +0000 (UTC) Cc: Ivan Andrus , "rms@gnu.org" , arthur miller , "emacs-devel@gnu.org" To: Lennart Borgman Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Wed Mar 19 17:21:00 2014 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([208.118.235.17]) by plane.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1WQJEf-0002XW-VG for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Wed, 19 Mar 2014 17:20:58 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:42551 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1WQJEf-0006iA-GS for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Wed, 19 Mar 2014 12:20:57 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::10]:54446) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1WQJEW-0006gh-0U for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Wed, 19 Mar 2014 12:20:55 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1WQJEO-0005r0-MF for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Wed, 19 Mar 2014 12:20:47 -0400 Original-Received: from mgmt2.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp ([130.158.97.224]:46478) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1WQJEO-0005qo-8C; Wed, 19 Mar 2014 12:20:40 -0400 Original-Received: from uwakimon.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp (uwakimon.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp [130.158.99.156]) by mgmt2.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp (Postfix) with ESMTP id D511D970A22; Thu, 20 Mar 2014 01:20:37 +0900 (JST) Original-Received: by uwakimon.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp (Postfix, from userid 1000) id C55DA1A28DC; Thu, 20 Mar 2014 01:20:37 +0900 (JST) In-Reply-To: X-Mailer: VM undefined under 21.5 (beta34) "kale" 2a0f42961ed4 XEmacs Lucid (x86_64-unknown-linux) X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.6.x X-Received-From: 130.158.97.224 X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:170545 Archived-At: Lennart Borgman writes: > Then I think Emacs must move in the direction of much tighter > integration with compilers and environments. Tighter integration > with the environments probably means allowing Emacs to be used as a > plugin (in the browser in this case). I don't really see that. In the great majority of cases there's about one file to worry about (a CSS file accessed from a ). Sure, we could do better with huge integration, but the point now is more to get something (anything!) working. Many Emacs users will also be able to deal with the concept of configuring for their use case (do you have on-the-fly style changes in a script? very well, configure that script as an auxiliary file to search for such changes). And so on. Leverage our users' skills to make life better for them, then worry about putting Eclipse and Mozilla plugins out of business.