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From: David Kastrup <dak@gnu.org>
To: "Eric S. Raymond" <esr@thyrsus.com>
Cc: emacs-devel@gnu.org
Subject: Re: vc-state-heuristic is gone
Date: Mon, 24 Nov 2014 10:02:59 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <87zjbh3r98.fsf@fencepost.gnu.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20141124083310.GA29913@thyrsus.com> (Eric S. Raymond's message of "Mon, 24 Nov 2014 03:33:10 -0500")

"Eric S. Raymond" <esr@thyrsus.com> writes:

> David Kastrup <dak@gnu.org>:
>> > Affected back ends: SCCS, RCS, CVS, SVN, Bazaar.  I've already tested
>> > with RCS and any change in preformance is now so small that a human is
>> > not capable of registering it.
>> 
>> For local files, presumably.  Both NFS and Tramp exist and are in use,
>> however, so the "no cache" philosophy should likely not extend to
>> operations which can be triggered repeatedly during keystrokes that do
>> not explicitly invoke VC-based operations.
>
> I hope I am parsing your last sentence correctly.  You do not appear
> to be suggesting anything about how VC should work, but making a general
> observation about *other* modes that have local caching.

Not at all.  I _am_ suggesting problems with VC operation that are
likely to occur with a "no caching needed anywhere" strategy you are
proposing.  Your statements about the speed of current
computers/computing are only valid for locally edited files.  Emacs can
edit a lot more than just local files, including version controlled
files on a remote system.

> The next thing I'm going to look at is unifying the status-querying
> functions.

If I get a VC call across an ssh link for every keystroke I make in some
Tramp-edited buffer because the modeline wants to display the non-cached
current branch I am on, this is not going to lead to happy editing.

-- 
David Kastrup



  reply	other threads:[~2014-11-24  9:02 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 41+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2014-11-23 21:56 vc-state-heuristic is gone Unknown
2014-11-24  8:09 ` David Kastrup
2014-11-24  8:33   ` Eric S. Raymond
2014-11-24  9:02     ` David Kastrup [this message]
2014-11-24  9:49       ` Eric S. Raymond
2014-11-24 10:35         ` David Kastrup
2014-11-24 10:46           ` Eric S. Raymond
2014-11-24 11:57             ` Michael Albinus
2014-11-24 13:03               ` Testing the new VC code Eric S. Raymond
2014-11-24 18:35                 ` Steinar Bang
2014-11-24 19:05                   ` Eric S. Raymond
2014-11-25  1:52                   ` Yuri Khan
2014-11-25  2:52                     ` Eric S. Raymond
2014-11-25  4:25                       ` Stefan Monnier
2014-11-25  8:31                         ` Steinar Bang
2014-11-25  8:43                           ` Steinar Bang
2014-11-25  9:09                           ` David Kastrup
2014-11-25  9:12                             ` Steinar Bang
2014-11-25 10:03                               ` Andreas Schwab
2014-11-24 19:39                 ` Michael Albinus
2014-11-25  2:50                   ` Eric S. Raymond
2014-11-25  6:44                     ` David Kastrup
2014-11-25 13:22                       ` Ergonomics and neurology for interface designers Eric S. Raymond
2014-11-25 14:15                         ` David Kastrup
2014-11-25 21:29                           ` Eric S. Raymond
2014-11-25 16:32                       ` Testing the new VC code Stephen J. Turnbull
2014-11-25 12:12                     ` Michael Albinus
2014-11-25 13:42                       ` Eric S. Raymond
2014-11-25 14:55                         ` Michael Albinus
2014-11-25 21:17                           ` Eric S. Raymond
2014-11-26 10:12                             ` Michael Albinus
2014-11-26 11:46                               ` Eric S. Raymond
2014-11-25 14:35                       ` Stefan Monnier
2014-11-25 21:25                         ` Eric S. Raymond
2014-11-24 14:40     ` vc-state-heuristic is gone Stefan Monnier
2014-11-24 16:17 ` Richard Stallman
2014-11-25  5:15   ` Karl Fogel
2014-11-25  5:47     ` Eric S. Raymond
2014-11-24 16:17 ` Richard Stallman
2014-11-24 17:52   ` Eric S. Raymond
2014-11-25 13:20     ` Richard Stallman

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