From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Ted Zlatanov Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: Patch queue management systems Date: Sat, 06 Dec 2014 08:12:31 -0500 Organization: =?utf-8?B?0KLQtdC+0LTQvtGAINCX0LvQsNGC0LDQvdC+0LI=?= @ Cienfuegos Message-ID: <87zjb0ncqo.fsf@lifelogs.com> References: <546D2E75.6090701@cs.ucla.edu> <837fyp7tvi.fsf@gnu.org> <546E2899.4050702@cs.ucla.edu> <54756754.5090103@cs.ucla.edu> <54762721.4060908@cs.ucla.edu> <17zjb2h650.fsf@fencepost.gnu.org> <86mw71pl6d.fsf@yandex.ru> <83fvct145r.fsf@gnu.org> Reply-To: emacs-devel@gnu.org NNTP-Posting-Host: plane.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1417871538 473 80.91.229.3 (6 Dec 2014 13:12:18 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Sat, 6 Dec 2014 13:12:18 +0000 (UTC) To: emacs-devel@gnu.org Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Sat Dec 06 14:12:12 2014 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([208.118.235.17]) by plane.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1XxF9f-0001zZ-Gp for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Sat, 06 Dec 2014 14:12:11 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:54455 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1XxF9f-00058K-0r for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Sat, 06 Dec 2014 08:12:11 -0500 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::10]:41632) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1XxF9U-00058D-Hd for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sat, 06 Dec 2014 08:12:08 -0500 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1XxF9M-0002h0-TD for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sat, 06 Dec 2014 08:12:00 -0500 Original-Received: from plane.gmane.org ([80.91.229.3]:37582) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1XxF9M-0002gr-Lw for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sat, 06 Dec 2014 08:11:52 -0500 Original-Received: from list by plane.gmane.org with local (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1XxF9L-0001rK-Qp for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sat, 06 Dec 2014 14:11:51 +0100 Original-Received: from c-98-229-61-72.hsd1.ma.comcast.net ([98.229.61.72]) by main.gmane.org with esmtp (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Sat, 06 Dec 2014 14:11:51 +0100 Original-Received: from tzz by c-98-229-61-72.hsd1.ma.comcast.net with local (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Sat, 06 Dec 2014 14:11:51 +0100 X-Injected-Via-Gmane: http://gmane.org/ Mail-Followup-To: emacs-devel@gnu.org Original-Lines: 31 Original-X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org X-Gmane-NNTP-Posting-Host: c-98-229-61-72.hsd1.ma.comcast.net X-Face: bd.DQ~'29fIs`T_%O%C\g%6jW)yi[zuz6; d4V0`@y-~$#3P_Ng{@m+e4o<4P'#(_GJQ%TT= D}[Ep*b!\e,fBZ'j_+#"Ps?s2!4H2-Y"sx" Mail-Copies-To: never User-Agent: Gnus/5.130012 (Ma Gnus v0.12) Emacs/25.0.50 (gnu/linux) Cancel-Lock: sha1:G8NRMwQc2ZBbbFkY9co0RXqitSI= X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: Genre and OS details not recognized. X-Received-From: 80.91.229.3 X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:179175 Archived-At: EZ> Personally, I think arranging the development around this kind of EZ> process will not work without some critical mass of patch reviewers EZ> who are able to endure the current constant high volume of changes, EZ> let alone if we want to increase that volume. Being an efficient EZ> patch reviewer requires good knowledge of at least a few areas of the EZ> Emacs core, and we currently have only a handful of people who can EZ> qualify. (The obvious exception from this rule is a maintainer of a EZ> single package who can review patches for his/her package.) From EZ> experience of other projects, 5 reviewers is not enough for this task. I wouldn't mind reviewing things in the queue when I'm able. My wishlist for a patch queue management system (PR/pull request system for those familiar with the Github model): * targeted hydra builds for a specific branch * a click-and-done way to merge a specific branch into master or emacs-24 * maybe a comment system * maybe debbugs integration (but I do hate debbugs... really hate it...) * ability to review the potential ChangeLog entries that will be generated from the commit All of these, put together, would make it a pleasure to use. As a significant side benefit, Emacs wouldn't be the only project to benefit from these improvements if they were made in Savannah. Ted