From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: "Pascal J. Bourguignon" Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.help Subject: Re: Boldface typing Date: Wed, 31 Dec 2014 06:26:58 +0100 Organization: Informatimago Message-ID: <87zja41ja5.fsf@kuiper.lan.informatimago.com> References: <874msc30rr.fsf@kuiper.lan.informatimago.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: plane.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1420004125 1513 80.91.229.3 (31 Dec 2014 05:35:25 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Wed, 31 Dec 2014 05:35:25 +0000 (UTC) To: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Original-X-From: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Wed Dec 31 06:35:19 2014 Return-path: Envelope-to: geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([208.118.235.17]) by plane.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1Y6BwF-0002yr-Ck for geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Wed, 31 Dec 2014 06:35:19 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:39262 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1Y6BwE-0005uP-BG for geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Wed, 31 Dec 2014 00:35:18 -0500 Original-Path: usenet.stanford.edu!fu-berlin.de!uni-berlin.de!individual.net!not-for-mail Original-Newsgroups: gnu.emacs.help Original-Lines: 54 Original-X-Trace: individual.net AvH1+LiAvKJdOpgm6LViAgQwglC3s85saoJPiI5Ey7qCiBjMC6 Cancel-Lock: sha1:ODNlMmMzYzJkYzU3NWRkOTRhZDgxZGUyNzBhM2YzZDBiMjAyM2EwZQ== sha1:r86MxySVMw+EZr+EvRcvNvIZ0CY= Face: iVBORw0KGgoAAAANSUhEUgAAADAAAAAwAQMAAABtzGvEAAAABlBMVEUAAAD///+l2Z/dAAAA oElEQVR4nK3OsRHCMAwF0O8YQufUNIQRGIAja9CxSA55AxZgFO4coMgYrEDDQZWPIlNAjwq9 033pbOBPtbXuB6PKNBn5gZkhGa86Z4x2wE67O+06WxGD/HCOGR0deY3f9Ijwwt7rNGNf6Oac l/GuZTF1wFGKiYYHKSFAkjIo1b6sCYS1sVmFhhhahKQssRjRT90ITWUk6vvK3RsPGs+M1RuR mV+hO/VvFAAAAABJRU5ErkJggg== X-Accept-Language: fr, es, en User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/24.3 (gnu/linux) Original-Xref: usenet.stanford.edu gnu.emacs.help:209502 X-BeenThere: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: Users list for the GNU Emacs text editor List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.help:101779 Archived-At: Rusi writes: > On Wednesday, December 31, 2014 9:59:31 AM UTC+5:30, Pascal J. Bourguignon wrote: >> twlllmxxx writes: >> >> > Just learning emacs. Editing text, >> >> Ok. So what is a text file? >> >> >> > I want to type a word in boldface >> > and then go back to default. So I use M-o b and type in boldface, then >> > M-o d and continue typing. It looks right: one word in boldface and >> > the rest in default. Then I save the file. Then I re-open it, and the >> > boldface is gone. Maybe I made a mistake. I repeat the editing, save >> > the file, and then re-open it. Again the boldface is gone. Any ideas? >> > >> > I'm working from Learning GNU Emacs by Cameron et al., O'Reilly. >> > >> > This is GNU Emacs 24.2.1 (i386-mingw-nt5.1.2600). >> >> >> Use M-x enriched-mode RET first. Then you will save not a text file, >> but an enriched-text file. > > If what you need is a word processor you should use that -- eg libreoffice, MSWord etc No, definitely no! If you need a word processor, you should do as RMS said: extend emacs to include a word processor in it! > emacs does a rather poor job of word processing How do you know? The program isn't even written yet! > The solution in the emacs/unix world 20 years ago was latex/groff etc -- ie > document processors Of course, that'd be better. Notice that this is exactly what enriched-text is: tagged text (html-like). > Today the goto-solution for this (and 1000 other things) in emacs-land is org mode. > It does have a long learning curve though... -- __Pascal Bourguignon__ http://www.informatimago.com/ “The factory of the future will have only two employees, a man and a dog. The man will be there to feed the dog. The dog will be there to keep the man from touching the equipment.” -- Carl Bass CEO Autodesk