From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Alexis Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.help Subject: Re: How to reload an updated library? Date: Mon, 02 Mar 2015 13:08:47 +1100 Message-ID: <87zj7wqhg0.fsf@gmail.com> References: <871tl8s2pm.fsf@debian.uxu> <87egp86ucb.fsf@gmail.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: plane.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1425262157 10685 80.91.229.3 (2 Mar 2015 02:09:17 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Mon, 2 Mar 2015 02:09:17 +0000 (UTC) To: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Original-X-From: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Mon Mar 02 03:09:13 2015 Return-path: Envelope-to: geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([208.118.235.17]) by plane.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1YSFnE-0008D3-3T for geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Mon, 02 Mar 2015 03:09:12 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:54673 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1YSFnD-0006Ve-3F for geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Sun, 01 Mar 2015 21:09:11 -0500 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::10]:44476) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1YSFn2-0006VZ-6S for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sun, 01 Mar 2015 21:09:01 -0500 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1YSFmx-000386-68 for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sun, 01 Mar 2015 21:09:00 -0500 Original-Received: from mail-pa0-x232.google.com ([2607:f8b0:400e:c03::232]:34847) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1YSFmw-000380-U1 for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sun, 01 Mar 2015 21:08:55 -0500 Original-Received: by pabli10 with SMTP id li10so10080380pab.2 for ; Sun, 01 Mar 2015 18:08:54 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=references:from:to:subject:in-reply-to:date:message-id:mime-version :content-type; bh=y/5YmnNhxSxGJgqXPItn6DLbpsGnfCXatTS+S+TmVvo=; b=kOBrH7BYbkh7n/QiewrqPRXVYgOaPIJg6vNU/dURFwlgZwzPorHiZw2q5+9FhCePSy /xOgxczU6of0j8mckqZryDJ2EjTHTOp9uU5qj1YB+uit6dwngELyeXUWoCUprvgYRa+N IMkfCt2XsonDn3OgG6mkBJsGjNkHkaEtMiknL3Nd8dsYd1nwjgsGyMJ32kmthC4AeoCQ GsCWlYgw9bOgVQYzMCaDcjSr7iWkRNszB5Asl9HxOLGdxdC8LSGp03BD7sU0dhSGXTV5 /isXEKPYGYSg3TM7ms4svlgl1NB5Nb0Dh6gLQziiEaRe5gjEG4m/NJRl/wAfG0hwca38 VH/w== X-Received: by 10.68.212.6 with SMTP id ng6mr43715618pbc.38.1425262133924; Sun, 01 Mar 2015 18:08:53 -0800 (PST) Original-Received: from localhost (ppp118-209-174-156.lns20.mel8.internode.on.net. [118.209.174.156]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPSA id y8sm2485143pbt.71.2015.03.01.18.08.51 for (version=TLSv1.2 cipher=RC4-SHA bits=128/128); Sun, 01 Mar 2015 18:08:52 -0800 (PST) In-reply-to: <87egp86ucb.fsf@gmail.com> X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: Error: Malformed IPv6 address (bad octet value). X-Received-From: 2607:f8b0:400e:c03::232 X-BeenThere: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: Users list for the GNU Emacs text editor List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.help:102969 Archived-At: On 2015-03-02T12:50:28+1100, Tory S. Anderson said: TSA> I've never been quite clear in emacs on the meanings of library, TSA> package, extension... I think I mean package, such as what you TSA> download from `m-x list-packages`: in this case, a whole program TSA> like Helm which includes many .el files. In my experience, in the context of Emacs, a 'package' is something that is downloaded from one of the ELPAs (Emacs Lisp Package Archives) - GNU ELPA, MELPA, MELPA-Stable, Marmalade etc. If you're installing Helm by cloning the Git repo and loading it manually, you're actually not making use of the Emacs package system. i would recommend installing Helm from one of the ELPAs, and then using the upgrade functionality of Emacs' package system[1] - when you upgrade a package, it will usually (again, in my experience) get reloaded once the local package has been updated. Things that aren't actually available for processing by `package.el` i would refer to as 'extensions' or 'libraries', regardless of how many ELisp source files they include. Alexis. [1] E.g. by doing M-x package-list-packages, then typing U to mark all upgradeable packages, then typing x to start the upgrade process.