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[131.155.69.45]) by smtp.gmail.com with ESMTPSA id gd10sm27725765wjb.47.2015.11.03.06.08.24 (version=TLS1_2 cipher=AES128-SHA bits=128/128); Tue, 03 Nov 2015 06:08:24 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: (Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen's message of "Sun, 01 Nov 2015 18:26:47 +0100") User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/25.0.50 (gnu/linux) X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 3.x X-Received-From: 208.118.235.43 X-BeenThere: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org List-Id: "Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.bugs:108346 Archived-At: Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen writes: > Eli Zaretskii writes: > >> If that's the reason, IMO it definitely should be up to the user to >> decide whether the inactive cursor annoys her or not. > > But the default should be the reasonable one from a UX standpoint. I didn't find it reasonable. I have tried hundreds of major modes and was genuinely surprised to find the single one that has this setting. At first, I thought it was a bug, since I never touched `cursor-in-non-selected-windows` in my config, then I traced it to the mode's definition.