From: Michael Albinus <michael.albinus@gmx.de>
To: Stefan Monnier <monnier@IRO.UMontreal.CA>
Cc: 23006@debbugs.gnu.org, Dmitry Gutov <dgutov@yandex.ru>
Subject: bug#23006: 25.0.92; Loading Tramp breaks pcomplete in eshell-mode
Date: Sun, 20 Mar 2016 21:40:23 +0100 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <87zitsubm0.fsf@gmx.de> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <jwvvb4hxhir.fsf-monnier+emacsbugs@gnu.org> (Stefan Monnier's message of "Sun, 20 Mar 2016 12:10:08 -0400")
Stefan Monnier <monnier@IRO.UMontreal.CA> writes:
>>>>> Can you explain *your* understanding of `non-essential', then?
>>>>> What does this var mean, for you?
>>>> For Tramp, it is an indication that file name completion is in
>>>> progress.
>>> Huh? Why would it need such a variable for that, instead of getting
>>> this info from the fact that you're replying to
>>> `file-name-all-completions' (or `file-name-completion') rather than to
>>> some other request?
>> Because these aren't the only file name operations being called. You
>> have seen it in the backtraces I've shown earlier.
>
> But in that backtrace, it's OK for Tramp to open a new connection, since
> the user hit TAB.
Tramp does not know that the user hit TAB. It checks for `non-essential'.
>>> And why would it be called `non-essential' instead of `in-completion'?
>> I wanted to introduce `completion-only'.
>
> The crucial distinction to be made is not between "performing
> completion" and "not performing completion", but between "any normal
> operation, including completion in response to TAB" and "side-operations
> like on-the-fly completion à la icomplete or company or background data
> collection (like semantic might perform)".
I don't understand. Tramp doe not know where it has been called
from. It operates stateless. `non-essential' provides some context,
that's all.
>> As I understand the codebase of Emacs 25, no other use of
>> `non-essential' has appeared since then. Six years later.
>
> It should be bound in desktop.el when reloading a desktop, but instead
> desktop.el opted to use ad-hoc file-remote-p tests, IIUC.
I do not care desktop.el just now, it is the case we were discussing 6
years ago. As of today, there is no other use case for `non-essential'
in the codebase but the Tramp case.
> Stefan
Best regards, Michael.
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2016-03-20 20:40 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 82+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2016-03-14 2:01 bug#23006: 25.0.92; Loading Tramp breaks pcomplete in eshell-mode Dmitry Gutov
2016-03-14 2:22 ` Stefan Monnier
2016-03-14 7:34 ` Michael Albinus
2016-03-15 3:31 ` Stefan Monnier
2016-03-15 8:43 ` Michael Albinus
2016-03-15 11:09 ` Dmitry Gutov
2016-03-17 0:42 ` Stefan Monnier
2016-03-17 19:43 ` Michael Albinus
2016-03-17 19:44 ` Dmitry Gutov
2016-03-17 19:54 ` Michael Albinus
2016-03-17 22:55 ` Dmitry Gutov
2016-03-18 8:27 ` Michael Albinus
2016-03-18 16:13 ` Stefan Monnier
2016-03-18 17:01 ` Michael Albinus
2016-03-18 17:53 ` Stefan Monnier
2016-03-18 20:21 ` Michael Albinus
2016-03-18 22:41 ` Stefan Monnier
2016-03-19 8:28 ` Michael Albinus
2016-03-19 12:35 ` Stefan Monnier
2016-03-19 15:28 ` Michael Albinus
2016-03-19 20:04 ` Stefan Monnier
2016-03-20 15:08 ` Michael Albinus
2016-03-20 15:23 ` Stefan Monnier
2016-03-20 15:46 ` Michael Albinus
2016-03-20 16:10 ` Stefan Monnier
2016-03-20 20:40 ` Michael Albinus [this message]
2016-03-20 22:17 ` Stefan Monnier
2016-03-20 22:28 ` Dmitry Gutov
2016-03-21 15:57 ` Michael Albinus
2016-03-20 15:38 ` Drew Adams
2016-03-20 15:54 ` Michael Albinus
2016-03-20 15:59 ` Dmitry Gutov
2016-03-20 20:31 ` Michael Albinus
2016-03-20 20:44 ` Dmitry Gutov
2016-03-20 20:53 ` Michael Albinus
2016-03-20 21:05 ` Dmitry Gutov
2016-03-20 22:19 ` Stefan Monnier
2016-03-21 15:49 ` Michael Albinus
2016-03-21 19:26 ` Stefan Monnier
2016-03-22 9:27 ` Michael Albinus
2016-03-22 12:02 ` Stefan Monnier
2016-03-22 12:05 ` Michael Albinus
2016-03-22 13:19 ` Stefan Monnier
2016-03-21 15:46 ` Michael Albinus
2016-03-21 15:49 ` Dmitry Gutov
2016-03-21 16:03 ` Michael Albinus
2016-03-21 16:13 ` Dmitry Gutov
2016-03-21 16:25 ` Michael Albinus
2016-03-21 16:45 ` Dmitry Gutov
2016-03-21 16:55 ` Michael Albinus
2016-03-21 18:10 ` Dmitry Gutov
2016-03-21 18:36 ` Michael Albinus
2016-03-21 21:26 ` Dmitry Gutov
2016-03-22 9:47 ` Michael Albinus
2016-03-22 12:05 ` Stefan Monnier
2016-03-22 12:20 ` Michael Albinus
2016-03-22 13:37 ` Stefan Monnier
2016-03-22 13:50 ` Michael Albinus
2016-03-22 14:01 ` Stefan Monnier
2016-03-24 1:00 ` Dmitry Gutov
2016-03-21 19:23 ` Stefan Monnier
2016-03-22 9:25 ` Michael Albinus
2016-03-22 12:02 ` Stefan Monnier
2016-03-22 12:08 ` Michael Albinus
2016-03-22 13:18 ` Stefan Monnier
2016-03-22 13:35 ` Michael Albinus
2016-03-22 13:38 ` Stefan Monnier
2016-03-22 13:50 ` Michael Albinus
2016-03-24 0:54 ` Dmitry Gutov
2016-03-24 13:15 ` Stefan Monnier
2016-03-24 13:54 ` Dmitry Gutov
2016-03-24 15:56 ` Stefan Monnier
2016-03-20 16:38 ` Drew Adams
2016-03-20 19:48 ` Drew Adams
2016-03-20 20:42 ` Michael Albinus
2016-03-18 22:51 ` Dmitry Gutov
2016-03-17 0:50 ` Stefan Monnier
2016-03-17 19:49 ` Michael Albinus
2016-03-18 16:06 ` Stefan Monnier
2017-03-09 18:52 ` Michael Albinus
2017-03-15 12:42 ` Michael Albinus
2017-03-17 11:30 ` Dmitry Gutov
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